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Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

One big WHATEVER.

For the sake of accuracy, the last hanging at the Missoula County Courthouse was in the stairway of the old jail some time in the 1940's. A man name Cole was hung after being convicted of murder for killing a family in their home at Lothrop (base of Petty Creek). I have it from an eye-witness the Cole was in fact a black man. But a jury said he did the crime and only a single man was hung that day. Making it about the black man is irrelevant - a murderer was hung and that is the end of it. Welcome to Montana, we don't give a rip that your black.

Then again, people who are basically unhappy about everything have to find something to try and make the rest of us unhappy about. That is all this is. Go back to your own miserable lives.

Posted by David McGinnis on 06/22/2017 at 11:19 PM

Re: “Pinesdale polygamy fears

In 2014 i committed arson in missoula and was in a state inmate holding facility called M.A.S.C in missoula with 2 men from Pinesdale in for sex crimes, 1st was molested by parents/uncles then started sexually assaulting younger children when he was 14, wound up getting a 40 year sentence at the age of 15, the other (the 1st ones uncle) was abusing 2 girls aged 8 and 9 for 4 years, so for anybody who says 'nothing is going on there' i have been locked up with evidence to the contrary, they abuse the young until the young becomes the abusers, no specualtion here pure facts seen by my own eyes

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Posted by Ellwood Friedrich on 06/22/2017 at 9:09 PM
Posted by Janet Abbey on 06/22/2017 at 5:53 PM

Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

I'm offended that someone is offended.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 06/22/2017 at 4:01 PM

Re: “Missoula is dead. Long live Missoula.

Apologies for the typos. "Knee" should read "one," and the rest are obvious. Fat thumbs/small screen.

Posted by John Kevin Hunt on 06/22/2017 at 4:00 PM

Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

This was a wonderful article, thanks for staying true to the story and not twisting it. There is however an unwitting inaccuracy that would be nice to have clarified: the 'I knows de ropes' piece was taken down after Antonio Morsette's (not Yolanda Garcia's) posting to Facebook, and in addition, Yolanda's concerns about them to the owners was not acknowledged until then either (which resulted in the meeting with Rick Zavarelli that we can see in Danielle Breck's live Facebook video).

Despite that, this is a great article!

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Posted by Zosia K on 06/22/2017 at 3:57 PM

Re: “Missoula is dead. Long live Missoula.

A very well-written piece, albeit knee that proffers non-sequiturs and false equivalencies as argument. Really, is there equivalency between the old Hoerner-Waldorf lung-clogging mill (which technically was in French town), and the architecture of the Merc? The argument offered here concerning the Merc cold be offered about every legacy building in Missoula. Preservation is about maintaining a psychic connection to quality and community. I moved from Missoula to Oregon (soon to return), and an witnessing the same heartbreaking destruction of the downtown of the oldest Incorporated town west of the Mississippi (Oregon City). The oligarchs finally pulled it off. Remember, "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone."

Posted by John Kevin Hunt on 06/22/2017 at 3:57 PM

Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

You bring up that this person has lived her 17 years what about how long Rick zavarelli and his family. Oh but this is so one sided. She wrote a letter than confronted him and only started recording after her and the organizations she brought with her was talking over Rick. Montana history isn't pretty. United States history is pretty. When we forget our past we don't learn anything from it.

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Posted by Jackiehewitt85 on 06/22/2017 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

Garcia "has been a sunrise saloon patron for years" as the article states. She never encountered racism from the staff, owners or it's patrons during all that time. She didn't even notice the painting in question until it was pointed out to her. Yet, she and affiliates now claim that the establishment, employees and patrons are suddenly racist and violent. I believe this is just a child crying for attention and creating a problem when there wasn't one.

The organization boasted how it "strategically chose a night when a band would be playing" to host their protest. Yet they have renamed their protest as a celebration of diversity and have moved the location of the event away from the Sunrise Saloon. They claim one reason for this is that they feared violent confrontations and had received threats. The truth is that the cause is not highly supported. Instead, the community has chosen to support the establishment and recognize it for what it contributes to the community: paying jobs for staff, bands, entertainment companies, fundraising and a friendly place to gather. If in fact, threats were actually made against Garcia or her affiliates, they certainly do not represent the nature of this community, this establishment or it's supporters. I would suggest reporting threats to the police and refrain from slandering businesses and their customers.

Lastly, I would warn that protesting just for the sake of attention is irresponsible. It dilutes the effort to bring attention to larger scale concerns. A more worthy cause would be to advocate fair wages for minorities and women. This is a cause that could improve lives apposed to removing a painting because it made someone sad.

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Posted by Frances Fitzgerald on 06/22/2017 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Shooting back is just as violent as shooting first

So, Smedley, which do you think we have now : a government that is feared by it's subjects, or a government that fears it's subjects ? As for me, personally, speaking for myself, I think its the former.

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Posted by alf on 06/22/2017 at 1:21 PM

Re: “Hanging offense: At the Sunrise Saloon, a painting sparks debate

You stepped up to bring the matter to their attention. It's up to them now. So many of us are blind to the images with which we are bombarded every day. Thank you for being mindful and aware--a lesson for us all.

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Posted by Wendy L Cohan on 06/22/2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “A six-mill levy supporting Montana universities has always passed before. That doesn't mean it's a shoo-in

Let's face it - going to a four-year school like UM no longer makes sense for the majority of today's high school graduates.

Why?

The cost.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/22/2017 at 12:30 PM

Re: “With Homeword's tiny homes, the Bakken's loss could be low-income Missoula's gain

Way too much money for what's little more than a walk-in-closet.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/22/2017 at 12:28 PM

Re: “What are 'blockchain security services,' and why is the state pouring $416,000 into a warehouse in Bonner?

I'm a troglodite and this article made me dizzy. I protest!

Posted by smedley on 06/22/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Shooting back is just as violent as shooting first

Robbie, your assessments vs solutions is fairly good. Not doable but based upon the premise that in reasonable societies might shouldn't make right. History dosent agree. It's a sad fact that reasonable people who voluntarily surrender their means of effective resistance end up enslaved by ruthless dictators who make life a living hell until they are forceably removed from power. Way too many examples!
I submit that the seething unrest we are witnessing today is about as good as it's going to get. Plenty of outraged idealists balanced by a heavily armed populace that is dead serious about staying that way. A government that is feared by it's subjects is a dictatoship. A government that fears it's subjects is a democracy.

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Posted by smedley on 06/22/2017 at 11:32 AM

Re: “A washed-out road sharpens concerns about a Bitterroot timber project

This article and the photo shows what that road maintenance backlog looks like on-the-ground following a somewhat modest rain storm.

Keep in mind that as of 2004, the U.S. Forest Service had a $10 BILLION road maintenance backlog across America's National Forests. The National Forests in Montana has, as of 2004, a total road maintenance backlog of $670 million. In the 13 years since this report (http://www.taxpayer.net/user_uploads/file/…) was produced the road maintenance backlog on America's National Forests has only gotten worse. Yet, Congress still refuses the fund the U.S. Forest Service to address this maintenance backlog.

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 06/22/2017 at 10:22 AM

Re: “Ted McDermott finds his way back to fiction with The Minor Outsider

McDermott lived in Normal, IL for a stint in his 20s. He grew up in Columbia, SC.

Posted by John E. on 06/22/2017 at 8:14 AM

Re: “Street Talk: How much bitcoin could a bitcoin miner mine if a bitcoin miner could mine bitcoin?

Bitcoin is a new age value token that is both created and distributed digitally. Unlike fiat currency (e.g dollar and euro) bitcoin is decentralized, which means, there are no institutions (banks?) that control it. And so, bitcoin is the e-currency that unites the world. A lifetime ago you could earn bitcoin just mining them out of your computer or GPU. But at present miners who get a profit use powerful ASICs devices. The ordinary people can mine bitcoin through cloud mining from either Hashing24 (https://goo.gl/yWRHFN) or Hashflare (https://goo.gl/JrDaiW). It is gonna cost you, though. But the profit is more than the fees.

You could also mine altcoins (e.g. Augur, dogecoin, litecoin, starcoin, monero, dash) through your computer or phone using the Minergate software (get it here: https://goo.gl/dVAxMZ) and this is done by renting out your device's power and in return getting a share of the altcoins mined by the Minergate. Have any question? Reach me at: junglewriter@gmail.com

Posted by Jessica Cynthia May on 06/22/2017 at 3:06 AM

Re: “A pickleball rebellion at Playfair Park

As one of the many "old guys and gals" that have embraced pickleball, gosh, I am so sorry the "old tennis guys" were politely asked to move to another court. Goodness, there are only 8 other courts available to tennis players at all times. And those courts are generally sparsely populated.
The Zootown Pickleball community is one of the most welcoming groups in town. Parks & Rec teach lessons twice each week at no charge. It is a sport particularly popular with the senior group for the "open play" concept of everyone welcome. We even have purchased quite balls to reduce the noise level.
Nearly every time we are on the pickleball courts we apologize politely sometimes even beg to ask the tennis folks if they could go to another court since we only have the 4 tennis courts that are lined for pickleball. Courts were built for us all to enjoy and share. Times are changing and sports are changing.
As far as noise, these "old tennis players" object to the lovely joyful sounds of fun coming from our courts. Do they object to the joyful sounds of children playing at SPLASH?
As I tell anyone who will listen - Who would have thought at age 65, I would learn a new sport and meet so many wonderful people who have become true friends. --Ruth Havican,
USAPA Ambassador in Missoula

Posted by Ruth Havican on 06/21/2017 at 7:27 AM

Re: “Tester moves a VA bill

I'm quite satisfied with my local VA clinic (Salmon, Idaho), but at the state office in Boise and at the national level, the VA is such an incomprehensible, impenetrable, turgid and opaque bureaucracy that I sometimes think that they're deliberately trying to discourage participation.

Posted by alf on 06/20/2017 at 12:06 PM

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