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Re: “Montana Democrats just got their ass handed to them. What will it take to get this party started?

A two party system lends itself to division.
There seems to be a lot of profit for some if they can manipulate this division to their favor.

Why do rural voters consistently distrust "D"s and vote against their own best interests?
Where do rural voters get most of their news and information?
Why does it take so much more money each election season to lie to us and counter act those lies? --it does not take that much money to tell us the truth, to inform us with facts!
Why is it worth so much money to those paying for this bombardment of misinformation, lies, and division?

Sarah Palin quit Alaska for a $14 million/year gig as a "flash in the pan" in the right wing propaganda machine. Now she's just making a measly little mil/year.

And with staying power, it seems, Rush Limbaugh with $79 million/year for ranting and promoting hate and division.
Roger Ailes: $35 mil/yr.
Glen Beck: $30 mil/year.
Sean Hannity: $30 mil/yr.
Bill O'Reilly: $20/yr.

Just for comparison, on the liberal side, Rachel Maddow: $7 mil/yr, Bill Maher: $6 mil/yr.

Couple this with all the money spent during election season; an amount worth many many lifetimes of money to the average Montana voter; for the mostly anonymous 1%ers it seems there is no limit to the amount of money they are willing to spend to keep us divided, misled, misinformed, and voting for the candidates who will make the laws and policy that will give those 1%res a healthy return on their investments in the content of the voters minds.

Democracy is dead, as is the minds of republican voters, until all money is removed from politics. It takes very little money to produce a well informed electorate.

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Posted by Joe Bear on 06/09/2017 at 2:08 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Equitable solution; Pay her back the tips from the first time she complained about it. Since mandatory tip sharing is legal when employees agree to it, then by not saying anything, (right out of the chute) you are, by default, agreeing to it. I don't think we need to bankrupt countless businesses just to pay back tips the businesses didn't take. Especially when they are just trying to be equitable.

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Posted by Thumper on 06/09/2017 at 10:36 AM

Re: “Montana officials weigh in on the "body slam" heard round the world

Don't believe in violence? Nobody believes politicians anymore because they are liars. Lawyers are liars. Tell the truth. The truth is most believe in violence that's why the world is at war since the beginning of time. Everybody wants to soft sell us like we're all dummies. Bon bons Doritos and a couch with NASCAR. Lol. What we all need is a politician that tells it like it is. Right or wrong. Tell the truth you bunch of spineless Weasels! Even Obama sent a hit squad into Lybia for God sakes. The country is acting like he should be a king. None of the people are worth the time or the toilet paper it takes to wipe your own ass. Lawyers, politician - ALL THE SAME - liars. You are the problems with this country. Lawyers and politicians have ruined our country. They are the blame. Not the party or the people or the government - it's the lawyers and the politicians. Wake up!

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Posted by It's the lawyers and politicians not the party on 06/09/2017 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Montana officials weigh in on the "body slam" heard round the world

If someone gets in your face with an object in their hands and you body check them after you've asked them to leave and they don't? That's legal and self defense. If any of us did this? We call the police and have the reporter arrested. The mistake the congressman made was taking the blame. He won because of the body slam. People want tough leaders. Passive works in schools not politics. He lost our support when he took the blame. Reporters need to learn they're place. They're nasty people.

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Posted by Tough leaders on 06/09/2017 at 9:52 AM

Re: “Montana Democrats just got their ass handed to them. What will it take to get this party started?

Truth or lies? Trump was telling the truth. Party shouldn't matter. Vote the person.

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Posted by Vote truth on 06/09/2017 at 9:46 AM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Justin, not sure you understand what socialism is.

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Posted by ol' az hippie chick on 06/09/2017 at 9:14 AM

Re: “Is the Revenue Department ready for Montana's weed tax tidal wave?

In Oregon, which has a thriving legal weed economy, this remains a problem. The legitimate security requirements of producers, compounders, wholesalers, medical dispensaries, and retailers all artificially inflate the retail value of the consumer and patient products.

The solution that seem favored by the socialist/libertarian populist/left intersectionalists is to authorize and charter state banks. That would seem a good pursuit in my former and future home state of Montana. It is attractive to a broad cross-section of the electorate opposed to the federal policies in this arena, for a wide but mostly cogent collection of reasons.

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Posted by John Kevin Hunt on 06/09/2017 at 3:54 AM

Re: “Montana Democrats just got their ass handed to them. What will it take to get this party started?

Bahahaha...the national team blue theme is "Oh, look a pile of not my money, let's share it".In the prog bubble of Missoula 1/3 of the people live on free shit, 1/3 of the people get paid to dole out free shit and the rest of us are sick and tired of footing the bill for them. People in the rest of Montana have more self respect than that.

The only D's to win recently, Tester and Bullock at least pretend they're not full blown prog and even they would have lost if L party voters had went Red or Blue. So Prog harder Team Blue and you'll insure the stupid party keeps winning in spite of putting up unlikeable dbags like Trump and Greg G. You'd think they'd learn that most people are NOT progressives like the stupid party learned with evangelicals.

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Posted by opus on 06/09/2017 at 3:32 AM

Re: “Montanans for National Security calls on Tester and Daines to discuss Russian interference

Hey, why didn't you guys warn the lightbringer when he scoffed at Romney's Russia concerns in 2012. Shouldn't you have warned him the Russian bear was at the door when he said that Mitt was living in the 80's? Or how about when a SecState had classified intel on a server in her basement for any foreign hackers to access easy peasy. I mean you guys were involved with "national security" back then, amirite?

Sure boosts my confidence in our security when I read drivel by partisan hacks like you that feel their political party is more important than the nation. Yet clueless statist assholes are surprised when the plebes want less government.....sheesh.

Posted by opus on 06/09/2017 at 3:13 AM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Ah, yes...delete my account. I suppose these are the same folks that want me to stop writing Big Sky Words, stop running for office every 2 years.

By the way, on Big Sky Words you'll learn that Sheila Stearns is making $5,800 a week to oversee UM's continued decline.

Oh, I know...not related, but in a way it is. Quite a 'few' in this town profit off the misery of the many. I'm sure I can think of a place many of those 'few' dine.

Yeah, I think I'll keep on doing what I'm doing, such as posting comments on this site...like I've been doing every Thursday for the past 3 years.

Hardworking Missoulians deserve an honest point of view. I'm glad the Independent did this story this week. I hope we continue to see reporting like this when the Missoulian takes full control.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/09/2017 at 12:55 AM
Posted by UberUser on 06/09/2017 at 12:50 AM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

What I love about this article, Brent, is how it makes us think. For instance, whos more important...front-of-the-house workers or back-of-the house workers? Who does more work, who deserves more money?

Its quite subjective, and I know this as Ive worked in both areas. For instance, when I worked at HuHot in the early-2000s, I remember servers coming back to the kitchen area crowing about the fact that they made $100 in tips that night.

Thats great, and Im happy for them and the effort they put forth. At the same time, Im a bit frustrated, as the best I can hope for doing prep/dish is to get $10 in tips...and that coming off that tip-share that this article is based upon.

Again, which work is more important or the most contributive towards the final package? And what is that final package...the meal itself, or the service (not always just front-of-house) that put it on the table?

What I also like about this article is that we can draw a parallel between the 1% and the 99% in this country. Whos doing the work, whos getting paid?

Think about it.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/08/2017 at 11:23 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Perfect recap of you. Don't leave out blatant idiocy, though. It really is the cherry on top.

Posted by Brent Kelly on 06/08/2017 at 11:18 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Golly.

Ignorance...stupidity...venomous...shit-heel.

What's the problem, Brent...didn't get your tip-share at the Keep tonight?

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/08/2017 at 11:12 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

I'll play your game, Greg. I know almost nothing about you, but I'll go ahead and say you are a total shit-heel. Do yourself a favor, and quit showing off your blatant idiocy.

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Posted by Brent Kelly on 06/08/2017 at 11:04 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

I find it hard to believe that the Independent staff wouldn't have tried to reach out to the Keep owners for a comment. The fact that there is no such comment speaks volumes to me. Oh, but they did have their lawyer make a statement.

And let's be honest, Bret - no one gives a damn. Americans don't have the attention spans of a goldfish (8 seconds). People won't even remember this story in a week when the new issue comes out.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/08/2017 at 10:52 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Greg, stop forming opinions based on such limited knowledge. You've read one sentence about the situation surrounding her firing and have decided you are a reasonable judge of the owner's character. You have no idea what the full story is, yet you blast your ignorant viewpoint with such venomous intent.

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Posted by Brent Kelly on 06/08/2017 at 10:47 PM

Re: “Montana officials weigh in on the "body slam" heard round the world

Both of the above comments are correct but I would go one step further...the FACT that he USED ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE AGAINST ANOTHER PERSON SHOWS HIS TRUE CHARACTER...HE IS A LOSER PERIOD!!!

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Posted by Cj Rolphe on 06/08/2017 at 10:46 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

I might be ignorant, Brent, but I've never fired a worker because they came to me with something they're concerned about. From the way the article puts it, I think that says a lot about these business owners and their character.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 06/08/2017 at 10:34 PM

Re: “A tip-splitting case at Missoula's The Keep could change the way Montana restaurants do business

Time to make all tipping illeagal. Tipping is dishonesty and fraud.

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Posted by Alan on 06/08/2017 at 10:20 PM

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