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Re: “Off the record with ALEC: What did Zinke say in Denver?


Posted by Cj Rolphe on 07/27/2017 at 10:50 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

Hopefully WE MONTANAN'S stand between "him" and the Presidency...PLEASE!!!

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Posted by Cj Rolphe on 07/27/2017 at 10:48 PM

Re: “Steve Daines takes the easy way out—again—on health care

jr2jr2, I'm just curious about that $2,200 monthly premium you are paying. I just looked at the site and couldn't find a plan even close to as much as what you are paying. Either I'm missing something, or you need to take a closer look.

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Posted by David Crisp on 07/27/2017 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Steve Daines takes the easy way out—again—on health care

@ claudius... I like how you call me a freeloader when you have no idea who I am or my background. Well let me tell you, I was born on a ranch and have worked since I was 12, not chores, but hard work. Also worked for local ranchers from age 14 to 18, and worked at my uncles gas station 20 hours on weekends too in fall and winter, and saved my money. By time I went to college (1976)I had enough saved up to pay for all 4 years of college on my own and had money left over. So much for a freeloader. Liberals of your irk are the scum of the earth, the ones who demonize, call names, and run down people when you have NO IDEA about the person you are trying to put down. You are the most intolerant type on earth, while at the same time you preach tolerance. Hypocrite

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 07/27/2017 at 7:06 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

The thought of Bullock aspiring to the White House is comical at best and in the least, absurd. He hasn't expressed an original thought since he's been in public life.

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Posted by Ed Kugler on 07/27/2017 at 6:52 PM

Re: “Playwright John Biguenet on how Hurricane Katrina changed his world

Thank you Mr. Biguenet, for your refusal to use quick "Katrina shorthand" and instead blaming the death and destruction on levee collapse. Using "Katrina shorthand" gives the culprits in the disaster, the US Army Corps of Engineers, a free pass. And also is unfair to the survivors.

Posted by SandySays on 07/27/2017 at 4:50 PM

Re: “What Roaring Lion revealed about climate change and wildfire

Thanks for the correction and feedback, Matthew and Larry. We've appended the "legal challenges prevented logging" correction to the online version of the story, and will include that correction in next week's print edition. Brad Tyer, editor

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Posted by bradtyer on 07/27/2017 at 4:50 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

Abilities aside, the President must INSPIRE citizens. Those of us who have heard Bullock speak know he can't do that.

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Posted by From Mancos, CO on 07/27/2017 at 3:40 PM

Re: “Wolf Heffelfinger's new album bodyslams politics

Great article and videos!!!

Posted by BigSky69 on 07/27/2017 at 1:33 PM

Re: “Steve Daines takes the easy way out—again—on health care

@jr2jr - No, the biggest crap sandwich in history is the one served up by ignorant tools who let congenital liars like Trumpsky do their thinking for them.

That policy you claim you had before the ACA was implemented was part of that same crap sandwich. It was garbage going in, and you were too stupid to realize it. If you're looking at a policy for $2200/mo w/ $6k deductible, you obviously haven't gotten any smarter, either.

People like you, claiming that you "work your asses off" are always the worst freeloaders in the system. You want to offer shoddy work with junk material, and charge like it's gold-plated. Then you whinge and moan because people don't want your crap. I paid for your "education", and obviously got cheated. I want my money back!

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Posted by claudius on 07/27/2017 at 1:27 PM

Re: “Steve Daines takes the easy way out—again—on health care

Thanks to Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Baucus, etc., the American people had the biggest crap sandwich in history shoved down our throats - Obamacare. It is such a mess and on top of it when you give people "entitlements" they are impossible to get rid of. I doubt it can even be fixed in the slightest. It is too late. The year before Obamacare my wife and I were paying $435 a month and had a $1000 deductible. Since it took affect, our rates have gone up so much each year that we have been unable to afford ins. for 3 years. This year they wanted $2207 a month with a $6,000 deductible. That is $26,484 a year or would be 54% of my net income (self employed).

So people like myself who have worked their asses off all their lives, can no longer afford it, while for example, people like band members in Missoula who don't work (only play music) and make $16,000 a year, or people capable of working but sit at home on their asses, those people get FREE and better insurance than I would get if I paid the $2207 a month. This is insane. Millions of hard working people like myself got screwed over big time, so others who contribute nothing (even though capable) get FREE insurance. Obamacare is worse than socialism. A distribution of wealth from those who work their asses off to those who chose not to. I am not talking about people who are unable to work or to care for themselves (I have no gripes there), I am talking about freeloaders like many of you reading this.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 07/27/2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

One cannot separate a Democrat from a Republican Rino any more. Bullock has driven this state into debt and his personal life is in shambles, as well. He's not electible or able to lead our country.

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Posted by Gloria Roark on 07/27/2017 at 12:59 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

No one running as a self-proclaimed centrist has a snowball's chance in Hell.

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Posted by John Kevin Hunt on 07/27/2017 at 12:42 PM

Re: “What stands between Steve Bullock and the presidency?

When it's all said and done and 2020 is over (and if a Dem is elected), all Bullock can really hope for is a cabinet-level position. To think otherwise is silly.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 07/27/2017 at 11:58 AM

Re: “Wolf Heffelfinger's new album bodyslams politics

Amazing music!

Posted by layla92 on 07/27/2017 at 11:08 AM

Re: “What Roaring Lion revealed about climate change and wildfire

Also, it would've been nice to see a little more balanced perspective in today's cover story about the Roaring Lion fire. Plenty of scientists who are actually studying/researching wildfires would have taken exception to lots of what Finney said.

But the article REQUIRES a correction for stating:

"The day the Roaring Lion fire started, the weather was exceptionally hot, with strong winds blowing down the canyon. The forest was dry. The Forest Service had proposed thinning the area, but legal challenges prevented logging, so the forest was dense with fuel."

This false statement was reported a bunch last summer as well, and all the media outlets, like Montana Public Radio, were forced to run a correction. See:…

Here is also some more information I passed around last year. As you can clearly see below, the USFS said logging wasn't set to begin until Winter 2016 (after the July 2016 fire) and that it would take 5 to 10 years to complete.

Plus, the logging lawsuit was filed by a homeowner in the area who was upset because his wife has heath issues and the USFS wanted to build some new roads around his property. Oh, and that guy who filed the lawsuit owns a wood products company.


For whatever it's worth, in this official FAQ sheet from the Bitterroot National Forest about the "West Side Collaborative Vegetation Management Project" the Forest Service clearly states the project was not set to begin until this winter and that implementation would take 5 to 10 years.

Here's the source:

And here's the official U.S. Forest Service response:

"Implementation: When would work begin? When would it end? The project contains several components which would be implemented over a 5-10 year period, most likely beginning the winter of 2016. The timber sale component, including road construction and timber harvesting, would likely occur over 3-4 years. Other proposed activities, including non-commercial thinning, aspen and habitat enhancement, prescribed burning, and road decommissioning, would most likely occur over the next few years following completion of the timber sale."

The lawsuit filed by the individual who owns a home and property directly adjacent to this proposed timber sale is a fascinating read. The homeowner is making some serious allegations against the U.S. Forest Service, especially concerning the alleged lack of any sort of meaningful 'collaboration' on the part of the U.S. Forest Service. It even appears as if the USFS ignored the property owners initial request for information, which seems amazing considering that the USFS was looking to build a road through his land, if I understand the circumstances correction.

I do have to point out that it's entirely false to claim that the lawsuit filed by the property owner 'stopped' or even 'stalled' the timber sale since the article claims that the judge hasn't ruled at all in terms of granting any type of injunction. Hopefully MTPR can dig into this issue deeper and make a issue a correction if it turns out that, in fact, the judge hasn't ruled and hasn't issued any type of injunction, which is the only thing that can stop or stall a logging project. Thanks.

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 07/27/2017 at 9:02 AM

Re: “What Roaring Lion revealed about climate change and wildfire

It's somewhat ironic that this article is about the HUMAN CAUSED Roaring Lion Fire, but instead of focusing on the human caused nature of the fire, it just focuses on climate change.

While I understanding that the climate is changing and getting warmer and that fire seasons are getting longer, new scientific research, which was well-reported on earlier this year (but perhaps not well-reported in Montana), found that human carelessness is far more responsible than climate change for increasing the fire season in the lower 48 states, from 154 days to 46 days). Here's the link to the actual study:…

Here's a snip from a recent article (

"Human carelessness is doing far more than climate change to worsen wildfire damage and raise the budget-straining costs of suppression across the United States, new research concludes.

While the shift to warmer and drier climate regimes seems to have lengthened the season for forest and grassland fire by a couple of weeks over the past three decades, scientists found, fires directly traceable to human ignition form a fire season in the lower 48 that is now three times longer than the period of natural, lightning-caused fires (154 days versus 46).

And while human-caused fires accounted for less than half of the acreage that burned during a study period from 1992 through 2012, they now make up the great bulk of all wildfires 84 percent and have extended the geography where fire is common into a lot of new territory, from the Southeast to the northern Great Plains, including northern Minnesota."

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 07/27/2017 at 9:01 AM

Re: “What Roaring Lion revealed about climate change and wildfire

Giving Finney the space to spread his propaganda unchallenged is also irresponsible, but fortunately he discredits himself without help when he says, "There is a common misconception that wilderness areas were completely wild before European contact. "That's not true," Finney said. "There were millions and millions of Native Americans here, living in this environment and manipulating it. There is no such a thing as wilderness." What a ridiculous statement! Of course there is wilderness, even with the millions and millions of non-native Americans here. His statement is far to broad to be considered fair or factual. Finney is using his turn on the bully pulpit to share his personal opinions unchallenged by balanced reporting or facts to the contrary. If he wants to rein it in and limit his comments to say that the Selway Bitterroot Wilderness had been subjected to human caused fire for centuries before it was designated Wilderness, then, yes, that is true. But his ridiculously overstated claims are due to blindly jumping into the deep end of a philosophical school of thought that is meant to subvert wilderness protection by claiming there isn't anyplace that is untouched by man. That is a strawman argument, and beside the point. Wilderness advocates, like myself, do not claim there is any untouched place on earth, especially in the age of climate change.

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Posted by Larry Campbell on 07/27/2017 at 8:43 AM

Re: “What Roaring Lion revealed about climate change and wildfire

Irresponsible and uninformed reporting. The statement, "but legal challenges prevented logging", is false. The reporter either wanted to add some conflict to the story to add drama or swallowed some disinformation that is easily disprovable with some due diligence. The Forest Supervisor has denied that the litigation caused delay of logging on several occasions. Even a correction at this point will not have the legs that this fake news will have. There is plenty drama built in to this story without needing to feed the fire of controversy over timber sale litigation.

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Posted by Larry Campbell on 07/27/2017 at 8:18 AM

Re: “Wolf Heffelfinger's new album bodyslams politics

Videos available on YouTube under wolfsukamusic.

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Posted by Side note on 07/27/2017 at 2:14 AM

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