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Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Rykart,
I'm not getting hot under the collar. You're doing everything you can to deviate from the story topic. Do I agree the system is Broken? ABSOLUTELY. But that doesn't mean you can choose which laws apply to you and which don't. Breaking the laws doesn't fix them, it makes you a law breaker. Rod was given specific conditions. He agreed to these stipulations then violated them. I can't feel sorry for him. HOW many times have we heard that ignornace is no excuse of the law. He doesn't even have that as a crutch to use. He violated the conditions of his release. He was sent back to prison. End of story. Stick a fork in it, it's done. Nothing to see here folks, move along. Save all your " it's just the man tryin to keep a brutha down" diatribes to yourself. It doesn't play into this. Do you REALLY want to help him? pay his lawyer who also agreed that the conditions of his release were acceptable. (or find him a better one)
Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Rykart,
The problem with your arguement and comparison to the Jews is simple.
Rod AGREED to the conditions. Now before you say this was a coerced agreement ( either agree or go to jail) this is a common plea-bargaining technique. Both Rod and his lawyer agreed it that it would be acceptable. Rod then used another computer to communicate with others that he was prohibited from contacting. I know how social networking works and it was no secret in the AR community that he was convicted and his sentance was that he was unable to communicate with his previous group of friends.
So lets keep this simple. Is the story about:
Jews in concentration camps? NO
Animal rights activists? NO
How the earth is getting too hot because of man? NO
Republicans? NO
Democrats? NO
Green Party? NO
A Man fighting injustices of society? NO
The story is about (pay attention this time) a Man who violated the conditions of his release. Nothing more fantastic than that.
Is there a reason why you can't follow that? I mean I understand the premise of rights for animals, etc, but that has nothing, not a damned thing to do with this story. If you want a soap box, go make one on your own. Then you can say whatever makes your heart go pitter patter.
Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Rykart,
Stick to the topic.
This is a VERY simple story or Rod violating the conditions of his release.
It's not about other countries, it's not about John McCain. hell, it's not even about fighting for one's beliefs against a repressive Gov't. Yes, the system is broken. But that fact doesn't automatically grant you Carte blanche
to do as you please because you have an "excuse". You don't like the laws? CHANGE THEM. But until they are changed, OBEY THEM.
The way this works out is if laws like this aren't obeyed and enforced, Gov't will make new laws, they won't enforce those either and people won't obey them.
Gov't will have to make more money to claim they're going to enforce them so everyone gets hammered with new taxes or money taken from other programs. People will complain that the problem still exists, even more laws are created ad nauseum. This story very simply is a case where Rod did not obey the law and it's being enforced. You should be rejoicing that the Gov't is actually doing what we elected them to do.
Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Observer,
You're comparing a violation of release to the founder of Wikileaks?
Spare me that lame example. READ the conditions of Rod's release. Did he violate them? yes. Beyond that is irrelavant. Stick to the topic at hand. This story isn't about Martyrs, it's not about saving animals. It's a simple violation of conditions of release.
Here's a nice quick definition for you - insanity:
Insanity is performing the same actions time and time again and expecting a different result. - Albert Einstein
Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Roko, ok I'll play. Yes, Lets look at the crimes which he was INITIALLY Convicted of.
1986 - Sinking of 2 whaling ships, 2 million in damages
1995 - 57 Month Conviction of Arson at MSU
2005 - Convicted of conspiracy against a Govt official/Destruction of Gov't property
2008 - Convicted of conspiracy to commit acts of violence
STELLAR record. I see all sorts of comments about his 1st amendment rights, But those rights don't exist to the point of inciting riot. You might want to re-read the full 1st amendment again.
The Basic laws of the land stem from the premise that it is unlawful to harm another person and/or their property. Seems as Rod had no problem doing just that. So after so many attempts to change his mentality of willingly breaking laws, it's come down to more prison time. I guess some people just refuse to learn to play well with others.
Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
If Rod was convicted of pedophilia and befriended a child on an unmonitored computer, would the reactions be the same?
Sorry to say but this was a condition of his release. It's not like he's a sparkling example of society, he's a convicted criminal. He should consider running for political office.
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Re: “Facebook "friending" lands activist Rod Coronado in prison”
Solarwriter,
did you actually READ the PDF or are you going solely by what the story reports?
In order not to do jail time, He AGREED to the conditions of release. Well, he violated those conditions and off to jail he goes. He ADMITTED that he violated the conditions. Stop trying to make this guy a Martyr. He screwed up. He was at least honorable enough to admit it and is man enough to handle the consequences for it. Respect the man for that, not his poor choice in associations.