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Re: “Standing Rock and the lessons of Andrew Jackson

A common feature of editorial pages these days appears to be non-historian academics venturing historical opinion as professional field commentary - all knowing full well that they would be the first to squawk if the reverse was attempted.

One can certainly Stand with Standing Rock, acknowledge the human suffering of the Trail of Tears, and advocate for the full inclusion and receipt of justice for the First Nations in American life - and not have to use Andrew Jackson as a voodoo doll or throw in the verbal hand grenades of "genocide" and holocaust." (Read on before you call up the phone keyboard.) These later terms made there way into discourse on AmWest history after the mid 1970s, after which the European Holocaust became an acceptable topic of conversation after initial concerns over traumatizing the survivors. The political popularity of appropriating the terms quickly overrode the less dramatic historical narrative of exclusion and assimilation. One can acknowledge the human suffering resultant from the transition from semi-pastoral and nomadic lives, and the disregard of 19th-century US policy for cultural preservation, without resorting to simplistic Custer = Hitler and Little Big Horn = Auschwitz analogies. That does disservice to both the injustice suffered by Native Americans and the attempted extermination of European Jewry. One can be assured that a real genocidal regime, of which we have real 20th century experience, would have left no survivors at Pine Ridge to write accounts of Wounded Knee.

Moreover, Jackson can be given a black mark without ignoring the context of his time. Jackson was a hard man for a violent era, during which the existence of his nation was a debatable concept. After Andrew Jackson, the concept of a foreign dismemberment of the US was moved from the conceivable to the moot - and the safeguarding of borders would not be unfamiliar to practitioners of intertribal warfare on the Northern Plains. Jackson demanded acknowledgement of the Federal Govermment's sovereignty from British, Spanish, renegade South Carolinians, and First Nations alike - a hard policy for many, but one that today insures that the US does not endure the precarious existence known by such places as Tibet, Kurdistan and Ukraine.

As a geographer, Rudzitis should at least understand that.

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Posted by Joedixon1 on 03/23/2017 at 2:28 PM

Re: “Standing Rock and the lessons of Andrew Jackson

Quote from article..."We will never know in what ways the many individual tribal societies would have emerged and grown, had we let them do so." Yeah, maybe if white man had never came never to North America they could still be living in tepees and hunting buffalo. Do you really know any natives who would like to be doing that today?? No, they love cars, cell phones, tv's, heated homes, health care, food, free stuff, etc, etc, just like the rest of us. It's a good thing they weren't conquered by the Muslims. Look at the history of what Muslims did when they conquered new territory in N. Africa, the Middle East, Asia, etc. They murdered EVERYONE, except for a few who fled w/o being killed.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 03/23/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “There's a reason they call them land 'lords'

Well Paul,I do not feel like using the power of the State to guarantee your investment or to collect money for you.. You already have a priveledge in the choice of renters. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

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Posted by tfs1150 on 03/23/2017 at 1:27 PM

Re: “Standing Rock and the lessons of Andrew Jackson

Let the oil flow through the safest pipeline ever built in the USA. By the way, if you were at Standing Rock and talked to protesters there, you would have found out that the vast majority of them have no job, they suck off the government (taxpayers) via welfare, medicaid, food stamps, section 8 housing, etc. Or they still suck off their mommy and daddy. For the most part, the majority that were there really don't contribute anything to our society. Mostly takers who look at protesting as a big party with lots of alcohol and drugs. Others who are bored and want to make themselves feel good by protesting for something. Don't believe it?? Show up at the next one and find out.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 03/23/2017 at 1:08 PM

Re: “Standing Rock and the lessons of Andrew Jackson

So if we let a pipeline be finished after jumping trough all the hoops of the EPA, etc. and having it approved, we are disrespecting the Indians?? Really? They are being mistreated??? Here on the CSKT Reservation the Federal government spends about $23,000 a year on every tribal member here. While our Lake County budget comes out to only $980 per person. Doesn't sound like mistreatment to me, and on top of that they get job preference by being a tribal member, and full college for free if they take advantage of the programs offered. And more perks for Natives that would make you jealous. Who's really being mistreated??

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 03/23/2017 at 12:59 PM

Re: “Zinke pressed by opponents of bison refuge transfer

Zinke is in the pockets of the CSKT Tribe and they brown nose him beyond belief, so I am sure Zinke WILL MAKE SURE the Bison Range is GIVEN to the CSKT Tribe. They will then make him an Honorary Tribal member

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 03/23/2017 at 12:39 PM

Re: “Standing Rock and the lessons of Andrew Jackson

It is disgusting the way the Native American are being mistreated.ITS UNAMERICAN.The President SHOULD HONOR THE TREATIES>The Native Americans were here FIRST.SO I Feel THIS IS THEIR LAND .TRUMP NEEDS TO READ THE CONTSITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS.He NEEDS TO BE ACTING LIKE A GOOD PRESIDENT AND TREAT THE NATIVE AMERICANS WITH RESPECT AND HONOR AN STOP THE DAPL OR GET OUT OF OFFICE> I Stand With Standing Rock!!!!

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Posted by Helen Barker on 03/23/2017 at 12:06 PM

Re: “Resistance Kitchen: Overturn the patriarchy with this tuna salad

what the hell did I just read?

Posted by Sourdough on 03/23/2017 at 11:44 AM

Re: “There's a reason they call them land 'lords'

perhaps the author here should look into how utterly helpless a landlord is when having to deal with the "tenant from hell" and how complicated it has been legislated recently for a landlord to evict someone. months it may take, all the while the landlord is not receiving income from his investment.if both tenant and renter would do the right thing, there woulkd be no need in legislation, but alas someone is always getting screwed, so bring on the laws and penalties. after all they have been earned

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Posted by Paul Middleton on 03/23/2017 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Housing plan coming up short of affordable

Did you know that Missoula taxes have gone up 95% over the past 12 years? The last year we didn't see a tax increase was 2010.

Even if you find an affordable house to buy (and not just rent), you'll have a heck of a time paying both your through-the-roof mortgage as well as your tax bill...which is the highest in the state, by the way.

Posted by Greg Strandberg on 03/23/2017 at 10:27 AM

Re: “A cut too far: UM offloads annual Easter egg hunt

Cut out the dead wood - it's time to get rid of high-priced admin positions...permanently. There are too many, we don't know what many of them do, and they in no way benefit students.

Posted by Greg Strandberg on 03/23/2017 at 10:25 AM

Re: “Housing plan coming up short of affordable

You mean the Mayor cutting the ribbon at the Old Sawmill opening was just affordability theater? Color me shocked!

Posted by Buzz Feedback on 03/23/2017 at 9:42 AM

Re: “Housing plan coming up short of affordable

All these grand plans and the most simple thing is now impossible. Missoula as a city will never be affordable for regular working class people in the future. It was not so easy when my wife and I were in our 20s. It is way harder now and it will only get worse.

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Posted by Glen B on 03/23/2017 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Caitlin Hofmeister puts failure in perspective on her new podcast, 'You're doing just fine'

Erika and Caitlin are both wonderful. Thanks for the interesting and forward article.

Posted by Kathleen Kimble on 03/23/2017 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Activists employ 'necessity' strategy in pipeline trials

It takes some real courage to fight this fight, wishing them acquittals on all charges

Posted by Tom Kloote on 03/23/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “The drama triangle

Absolutely wrong. This crime knows no social boundaries, period.
The male bias in this town is criminal.
A women beats her boyfriend with a hose. He bleeds as the police tell her she can stay home without arrest, but is charged.
A man calls the police to remove his violent ex-girlfriend from his home and is arrested because the little sociaopath tells the police she FEELS afraid of him. The police audio is missing the man's testimony as well as the witness who sided with the guy who called Police???????

What??

Then the gal keeps comimg but his home which he can be arrested for so he calls the police and shorlty afterward his home is raoded for all electronic devises, he is held as a flight risk on a 3 day weekend when the Prosecutor is aware is attorney is out of town???

No charges were filed in the last incident. Pure harassment for calling the police as advised by his attorney.

An equality needs to be administered in domestic violence situations or no justice will ever be served.

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Posted by WhatTheHeck on 03/22/2017 at 11:55 PM

Re: “How Bob Giordano and Free Cycles made their dream home a reality.

Great artlicl! The continued growth, giving, compassion and committment to a true passion Bob and those associated with free cycles take on is Positively inspiring.

Posted by Jewls on 03/22/2017 at 8:56 PM

Re: “A conservative group put UM historian Tobin Miller Shearer on 'Professor Watchlist.' To Shearer, the threat sounds awfully familiar.

Hyperbole much? Lol....typical of people who dont so much "reason", as "feel".

A 'watchlist' put in place to EDUCATE students and their families about where they may, or may not, want to invest their education dollars is NOT the "same as what Hitler did!", or "the same as what McCarthy did!".

Nor is it, as far as I have seen, "a hate list".

Now, you may have gotten disagreeable feedback because of methods/beliefs EXPOSED by the notoriety of being listed on that website. But is that not similar to feedback left throughout comments section's of websites, or social media itself?

Not to mention, of course, the infamous SPLC website. Which left-wingers have heralded for YEARS as "doing great work to call out the intolerant among us".

Well, shoe's on the other foot now, Prof.

And hilarity ensues.... ;)

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Posted by Mickey on 03/22/2017 at 1:23 PM

Re: “No good answers

Guardian ad litems cover up crimes just like this one against babies all the time and judges protect them which is a crime. Why? Because most GALS are mostly lawyers and use desperate abused women and babies to serve thier larger clients. One loss for a desperate abused woman and child sacrificed to give a win to the better paying customer even if that better paying customer is a pedophile woman and child abuser. Clerk of courts is free to research cases. So everyone should educate themselves. Then contact the victims and explain they can report the truth to the ODC which investigates low life attorneys like this. Then report their findings about the judge to the judicial standard commission.

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Posted by Report to ODC & judicial standards comm on 03/21/2017 at 12:25 PM

Re: “No good answers

Report to the FBI. Thousands of cases eerily similar exist because the judge abuses power protects the guardian ad life me and lawyers because they get caught operating outside the law and misleading the court for the simple reason of making back door deals for other cases they have with each other and preserving that chip in the pocket for the rainy day, The proverbial "owe you one" next time around. Who gets hurt? Girls babies and women so the lawyers can line their pockets and judges protect their friends. Public corruption is what it really is and every case needs to be reported to police FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THEY'LL DO NOTHING and that color of law violation for protecting the lawyers which are a whole other back door deal - the make reports to the FBI and pray to God the Feds raid the courthouse clerks office with buckets of extra handcuffs.

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Posted by Report to FBI color of law & public corruption on 03/21/2017 at 12:10 PM

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