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Re: “Full circle

$25 per month for that paper?? That's hilarious

Posted by nonmissoulainsubscriber on 11/20/2014 at 3:07 PM

Re: “etc.

Here's a pretty ironic and telling update to the original Indy Etc.

Lawsuit from Missoula City-County Health Board, the Missoula Valley Water Quality District, the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes and the Clark Fork Coalition blasts Stone-Manning's DEQ for 'absurd' Clark Fork River pollution permit

http://missoulian.com/news/local/missoula-…

Posted by Matthew Koehler on 11/20/2014 at 2:30 PM

Re: “Mount Jumbo

You said it, alf.

Posted by Greg Strandberg on 11/20/2014 at 12:49 PM

Re: “Mount Jumbo

Greg, I'll bet the person or persons tearing out the signs are well aware of the fatal avalanche last winter, and frankly don't give a damn about it, much less the disturbance they'll cause to wintering wildlife, or the other adverse environmental impacts mentioned in the article - erosion, spreading weeds, etc.

I suspect the guilty party or parties have one of two motives, or a mixture of the two : (A) It's all about me ! My gratification, and screw you and everyone else; and/or (B) It's some right wing anti-government nut(s) showing their defiance of authority.

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Posted by alf on 11/20/2014 at 12:42 PM

Re: “Full circle

Let's see : Cutting quality while simultaneously raising prices.
How could that be anything but a formula for success ?

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Posted by alf on 11/20/2014 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Money matters

Comments had to be removed from this story because they were off-topic and did not follow our submission guidelines. You can check out those guidelines at the link below.

Thanks,
Skylar
Editor

Posted by Skylar on 11/20/2014 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Full circle

Oh, no! I hope the Missoulian doesn't get rid of their ONLY three far-right, out in space right, subjective syndicated columnists. We wouldn't want to look beyond cultural barriers or anything that would cast a different perspective on issues. We all know that everything and everything that President Obama does is wrong, and George, Rich and Thomas make that clear and not much of anything else. So why have any other views from other syndicated columnists who might make worn-out rhetoric less appealing? Good thing for libraries and limited reads of e-editions, or I might have to give the Missoulian a dime.

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Posted by Tim Faber on 11/20/2014 at 11:37 AM

Re: “Missoula County Animal Control increases licensing, impoundment and boarding fees

As a 40+ year resident of Missoula county, I don't mind paying the additional dog licensing fee, HOWEVER, I DO MIND being treated by a criminal by the "Aggressive collection" i.e. THREATENING letters I receive from Animal Control. I live on a very fixed income - sometimes I simply don't have the money to pay on time. I DO, however ALWAYS pay. Your snotty, uncompassionate attitude does not compel me to want to pay you at all - nor will I ever donate to you as I have in the past. I am not a criminal - I resent being treated like one.

Posted by Barb on 11/20/2014 at 11:22 AM

Re: “Covert oops

What has to be clarified is the definition of "publicly announced". Is is sufficient to electronically announce a meeting somewhere on some web site? One that only some people subscribe to? Post it on the oak tree on Maple St? Or was that the maple tree on Oak?

Posted by niam on 11/20/2014 at 11:20 AM

Re: “Missoula County Animal Control increases licensing, impoundment and boarding fees

Actually, that's only a little overpriced for three horses. Board in our area runs anywhere from 270-350/month-per horse. Pasturage is cheaper but someone has to be there twice a day to feed and water...The owner ought to have to pay it back,though, since her conviction has upheld. Are they pursuing that avenue?

Posted by DT on 11/20/2014 at 11:02 AM

Re: “Mount Jumbo

Someone needs to camp out or get a camera and catch that person. Then they need to confront them and tell them about the people that were killed in that area last winter. They need to tell them about the families that suffered, the heartache caused in the community, and the strong chance that that could happen again.

They need to tell them that and they need to tell them that real good. I'd be happy to see my tax dollars used to that end.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 11/20/2014 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Covert oops

If the meeting was so bad, if it was indeed illegal, why has Montana Commissioner of Political Practicies Jonathan Motl done nothing about it, 7 days later?

It tells me 2 things: Either nothing was wrong or Motl can't find anything that was wrong.

Either way, this is going nowhere.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 11/20/2014 at 9:48 AM

Re: “Full circle

Gosh, they sure had some problems when they tried to clean up their digital subscriptions a month or so ago. And how about all that new online advertising that bombards you? Like those sidebar banner ads? I used to like clicking on the white spot on the edge of the screen, but you can't do that anymore.

It points to a company dying. The Missoulian is losing readers, and instead of doing what needs to be done to gain them - hard-hitting reporting, no coddling local officials, an interest in stories that matter - they give you more sweetness and light and advertising.

Is that worth paying more each month for? I don't think so, I think it's worth paying less for.

What will the media landscape in Montana look like in 5 years, and will the Missoulian be a part of that? Not in its current form it won't - management has assured that.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 11/20/2014 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Covert oops

As if any of this really matters, United States citizens are arming themselves and readying themselves to make the final move that has been discussed within the secret society of American citizens who plan on taking this country back from the old, decrepit, dirty hands of the politicians who were elected by corporations. Mark my word, it is not a revolution that is ensuing, but instead overthrow and destruction of the system that is owned and operated by the corporations who pay us next to nothing and make us pay stupid amounts of our hard earned daily bread for their products.

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Posted by Austin on 11/20/2014 at 9:26 AM

Re: “Flash in the Pan

I had 40 lbs of tomatillos in the garage from the summer and all i can say is WOW!!! this is an amazing recipe to put them in. I have made it three times since i saw it in the Indy. I made it for hunting camp the first time..Amazing! Warms to the bone and gives you the later afternoon energy to get out there in the cold. The second time i made it for a party and everyone was dancing around in habanero sweatyness. the third time is just for freezing and warming up during this bone chilling cold evenings in January.
One change that i made to the recipe is to roast the tomatillios, peppers, onions and garlic. Gives the dish an amazing smokies. Never in three times making it have i used the same mix of peppers, change it up for the goodness of your soul.

Posted by Brian Furey on 11/20/2014 at 8:56 AM

Re: “Covert oops

RE: Secret Meetings

Here’s the link to a copy of our lawsuit against Governor Bullock and the DNRC over their secret meetings and process which resulted in 5 million acres of National Forest public lands in Montana being nominate for ‘fast track’ logging.

http://forestpolicypub.com/wp-content/uplo…

Keep in mind there was NO public notice for any of these meetings organized by Governor Bullock and his Natural Resource Policy Advisor, Tim Baker [Note: Baker was previously the executive director of the Montana Wilderness Association and Baker's wife is State Supreme Court Justice Beth Baker].

There were NO minutes recorded and made publicly available for any of the meetings. NO agendas for the meetings were provided to the public before the meetings were held.

Only one agenda was prepared for the first meeting, which was only provided to the public on April 14, 2014 in response to my public information request (which at first the Montana DNRC informed me I'd have to actually pay them money to get).

The agenda for the first meeting reflects an initial intention to provide the decision or recommendation to the Governor by April 1, 2014 “after broader input/review,” but no such input or review was ever sought or obtained.

No opportunities were provided for the public – other than the few individuals selected for the collaborative group – to participate, or to submit data, views, or arguments before the group made its decision advising DNRC and the Governor of lands to nominate, or before DNRC and the Governor decided to nominate those lands.

Finally, keep in mind that these 5 million acres of public National Forest lands nominated for ‘fast track’ logging through Governor Bullock’s secret, no public notice, no public input process will now be available for an unlimited number of 3,000 acre logging projects that are (according to the exact language of the Farm Bill) “Categorically excluded from the requirements of NEPA.”

P.S. Here's Section 8 and Section 9 of the Montana Constitution:

Section 8. RIGHT OF PARTICIPATION. The public has the right to expect governmental agencies to afford such reasonable opportunity for citizen participation in the operation of the agencies prior to the final decision as may be provided by law.

Section 9. RIGHT TO KNOW. No person shall be deprived of the right to examine documents or to observe the deliberations of all public bodies or agencies of state government and its subdivisions, except in cases in which the demand of individual privacy clearly exceeds the merits of public disclosure.

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 11/20/2014 at 8:15 AM

Re: “Missoula County Animal Control increases licensing, impoundment and boarding fees

$45 a DAY? They got hosed! For that amount, they should have been getting hands-on attention all day, hand-picked grass, daily brushouts....constant medical attention! Sounds like someone wasn't paying attention to what made sense, just what had to be done.

Posted by Pamela Alley on 11/20/2014 at 4:28 AM

Re: “Sidewalk shoveling scuffle

Wow, lots of dislikes on my comment. Must be property owners. I'm a renter so my rental agency does that, saving me from making excuses for my laziness.

Posted by Greg Strandberg on 11/19/2014 at 12:42 PM

Re: “Cost of doing business

As I read this article I figured Hal was still on the payroll and sure enough he is. He is definitely all about winning if lawyers have been brought into the mix... not about working together to settle matters in a way that's mutually beneficial.

Posted by Shianne on 11/19/2014 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Sidewalk shoveling scuffle

I have no issue with snowy, slippery walkways in winter but I shovel anyway so that the many elderly people in these older neighborhoods don't slip and fall. It's called common courtesy by some and community by others.

Posted by Christen on 11/19/2014 at 12:25 PM

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