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Re: “Speak freely


OK, A.C. is understandably starting with a very large disadvantage and has a very steep hill to climb; but she's refreshingly honest, has a compelling personal story, and best of all, as has been pointed out, she's not a plain vanilla, same-as-everyone-else, panderer to Wall Street and other corporate interests. I honestly think that, and running an honest pavement-pounding, bottom up, grass roots campaign, can work to her advantage; and if it doesn't get her a win, it'll give daines and his corporate sponsors heartburn, and show that she'll be a force to recon with in the future.

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Posted by alf on 08/28/2014 at 2:53 PM

Re: “Leave it right here

We need more Ranger McLeans. Bless her heart and her good work!

Posted by Jean on 08/28/2014 at 9:41 AM

Re: “Leave it right here

We need more Ranger McLeans. Bless heart heart and her good work!

Posted by Jean on 08/28/2014 at 9:41 AM

Re: “Etc.

If the team's "investments/gifts" in Indian Country are sincere, then the name will change. If the name is not changed, then the rest is window dressing, and indeed, as the 1491s so aptly put it, "Manhattan for beads." Mr. Snyder, we didn't just fall off the turnip truck yesterday.

Posted by Marsha Rose Katz on 08/26/2014 at 8:29 PM

Re: “Highway robbery

Idaho's proud Republican conservative leaders doing all they can spending precious tax payer dollars to support mega business, corporate agenda and political persecution while continuing to ignore the sanctity, heritage and historical significance of this magical and mystical region. Just another example of extremist dam hugging radicalism brought to you by the likes of Butch " We dont need no stinking Federal Medicare Assistance" Otter and Rush " The Man's a Muslim" Limbo. Wake up Idaho!!!... these Radical Republican puppets care only about preservation of the wealthy and privileged, they dont give a shit about anything else.

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Posted by K Wayne Berry on 08/24/2014 at 6:45 PM

Re: “Morally exposed

Thank you for posting this. In 48 states, bans on public nudity violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, thereby rendering existing laws like that in Utah as unconstitutional on its face. We are gearing up to raise the alarm on these unconstitutional nudity bans, from SF and Spokane, Wash. to Myrtle Beach and Bellows Falls, Vt. and everywhere in between. Every state allows for at women to be nude in public via breastfeeding. Thirty-eight states allow for them to be topless as well. However, ONLY seven states allow for everyone to be naked in public. That is why bans on nudity violate the Equal Protection Clause. There is nothing remotely sexual about nudity.

Posted by mjb1984 on 08/24/2014 at 5:53 AM

Re: “Water warning

I appreciate your concern rooted in the trauma of your past hometown. However, you seem to be transferring worries rooted in the conditions in Las Vegas to Missoula. It actually is different here, and there are a few things you should know about your new home.

First, the Missoula aquifer actually is different from many water sources in the West. It is directly connected to the rivers and creeks above it, and it flows downhill in a similar fashion - though much more slowly (30-100 feet per day) as it wends through buried post-glacial gravels and boulders. According to Tom Patten, a geologist for the State Groundwater Information Center, “Unless there is a shortage to the point where the [Clark Fork River] isn’t flowing, we don’t have to worry about the aquifer running dry.” There is actual information backing up the impressions of watershed plenty that so unnerve you, check it out!

Moreover, the water used by humans in the area that does not evaporate or get carried out of the basin another way actually goes back into the ground, and thence back to the aquifer. That’s both good and bad, as it recharges the aquifer but also carries contaminants. What we Missoulians need to be concerned about is polluting the aquifer that provides ALL of our drinking water. Keeping groundwater clean is a much better point on which to raise civic awareness around here. Sprinkling water on concrete is definitely not ideal or efficient, but it’s not quite the horror it may seem.

You are also quite apocalyptic about rainfall trends in Missoula, but your conclusion is based on highly skewed data. Yes, there was a year of high rainfall in 1998 – locals skiers still rahpsodize about the massive winter storms that year – but 21 inches was an anomaly. The 30-year average is 13.82 inches, quite close to last year’s total. Your implication that rainfall amounts are plummeting toward zero in 30 years is wildly inaccurate, and exactly the kind of alarmism that gives climate change deniers a big fat target to discredit. There ARE highly worrisome trends in precipitation and temperature here, but overstating them does not help.

Finally, you mention pine beetle impacts as turning the west into a giant tinderbox. The actual effects of beetle-killed trees are much more complex than that. Turns out that both living and dead trees burn very well in hot and dry weather. But once the needles fall off the dead trees, wildfires don’t spread as catastrophically through the crowns…but when the tree trunks fall they build up heavier fuels that can sterilize soils when they do burn. Complicated! Layer on that different forest types, and the fact that our local forests have been primed for death (and maybe renewal) by beetles and fire by decades of fire suppression and historical harvest patterns as well as recent climate changes. Missoula is a center of expertise and research on fires and forest dynamics, with the Fire Sciences Laboratory out near the airport.

My point is that things are not as they may seem on first look around here. We Missoulians welcome ideas and experiences from other places – sharing this information is critical to creating a resilient culture in the era of climate change. It’s just good to be well-informed on the history and science of a place before you get too worked up!

Posted by Dave Morris on 08/23/2014 at 11:51 AM

Re: “Highway robbery

That was " couldn't see past his own hands" I hate spell check

Posted by Coho on 08/23/2014 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Highway robbery

I lived in Orofino ID some years ago. Had an interesting conversation with a logger when the area was being threatened shutting a lot of logging off. After looking at whole mountain side stripped bare I was wondering at the intelligence of this. This logger was so mad at me he left and got a roll of toilet paper and held out both his hands which the role was in one and nothing in the other and said which one would you rather wipe your ass with. I was more than a little stunned at how stupid that was. If it meant wiping out a whole mountain of trees just to wipe my butt I was sure we could find another way to get my butt clean. Which bring me back to now, the logger could see past his own hands and most here can't see past their own cars.

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Posted by Coho on 08/23/2014 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Highway robbery

And just how are the Indians getting screwed by anyone driving through the rez on state or federal highways?

The products from refined oil are a BIG part of every ones daily life so unless you want to go back to the stone age deal with it.

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Posted by erlyirn on 08/23/2014 at 12:08 AM

Re: “Highway robbery

A mega-load just came up 95 and turned right on 200. Heard it just crossed the state line. You really want to blame , how did the dumb$ssh put it, idiot ho. I guess Montana might be slightly complicit in this traveling road show. I didn't see the mega-load held up at the Montana state line, or any of the other mega-loads that passed through Montana. Put the blame on everyone who drives a automobile, depends on everything being brought to them by truck or train, in short anyone who buys energy. Gas, grass, or ass, nobody rides for free.

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Posted by idahomike on 08/22/2014 at 8:26 PM

Re: “Highway robbery

"The Butcher" barely won Idaho's repuglikan primary this spring. Even in overwhelmingly conservative, bright red idiot-ho, the sheep are getting wise and are tired being fleeced by the cronyism and single party corruption of otter and his inner circle of corporatists.

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Posted by alf on 08/21/2014 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Highway robbery

Does anyone think American Indians will suddenly stop getting screwed in this country?

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 08/21/2014 at 10:26 AM

Re: “Highway robbery

Wonderful article. Thank you for laying out all the facts.

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Posted by Marilyn on 08/21/2014 at 9:40 AM

Re: “Far from dead

Bravo, Mr. Kriegel! Just letting you know that at least one Independent reader is in support of you, the tea party, and AFP.

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Posted by Lauren on 08/19/2014 at 6:56 PM

Re: “Water warning

Such a silly conversation. Listen to yourselves. Try this 'wasting water' justification on an 8-year-old and see how much sense it makes.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 08/19/2014 at 9:21 AM

Re: “Water warning

Its a waste of energy, not water... get it right.

Posted by df on 08/19/2014 at 9:04 AM

Re: “Water warning

Nothing wrong with trying to conserve water, even if there is a "seemingly" endless supply....which does, as you said seem doubtful. I too hate it when sidewalks get watered. All of us can cut back a little without losing any of our quality of life. Conservation is ALWAYS a good idea.

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Posted by Sara Lahey on 08/18/2014 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Morally exposed

"Is public nudity legally allowable within Missoula city limits? If not then the city council's decision is a violation of the tenets that ALL residents of the jurisdiction"

Quite the opposite. Is public nudity illegal? If not, then it must be allowed. Many, many towns and even states have laws against public nudity. Missoula does not. Until it does, the government must allow the event. If the citizens are really that concerned about public nudity, pass a law. It's been done many other places.

So the answer to your question is: Yes. Public nudity is legally allowed within Missoula. Until it is not, those who don't like it have to endure it.

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Posted by Concerned Citizen on 08/18/2014 at 3:07 AM

Re: “Water warning

Missoula's annual precipitation has been about 13.8 inches since at least 1970. That one year you mentioned is obviously an anomaly. Why are you trying to trick people with baseless alarmism?

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Posted by Pachistima on 08/17/2014 at 11:54 AM

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