The statement, "There have been 63 school shootings in America since the Sandy Hook tragedy..." is misleading at best. It appears to be an updated number that comes from a highly flawed "study" from Mayors Against Illegal Guns, an organization that is "for civilian disarmament. This fact escaped a few of their early members; politicians who considered reading the name of the organization sufficient due diligence." They have lost more than 50 members in recent months due to their agenda and lack of credibility.
I am also the parent of two school age students in Missoula. I understand that school violence is a concern in our country and I respect your opinion and efforts to get to the root of this issue. PLEASE consider this...
If a person wants to hurt people and do illegal things nothing will stop them.
I think it could be useful to look at a possibility of another root. What has become of childhood and adolescence in our country? What types of morbid emotional suppression are our children and citizens experiencing that puts them in such desperately destructive situations? Why are so many people suffering from mental health issues and living on nutritionally deficient food and pharmaceuticals? JUST MAYBE... We have created an overly isolating ,intensely lonely and fearful culture. I DON'T THINK NEW LAWS AND REGULATIONS can protect US from this. I am happy that we as a community are talking and looking for solutions regarding this horrific situation in our society.
Here are some substantive comments based on the actual text of the Rocky Mountain Heritage Act. These comments are provided from the perspective of a hunter/conservationist who has spent a lot of time on MT's RMF:
It also should be mentioned that the Montana Outfitters and Guides Association has come out publicly supporting Rep Steve Daines massive mandated logging bill, the so-called “Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act” (HR 1526).
As such I really don’t think the Montana Outfitters and Guides Association knows much about federal public lands policy, or really even has the best interest of our public lands, wildlife, wilderness and backcountry in mind.
Here’s why. In Montana it’s estimated that Rep Daines logging bill (supported strongly by the MOGA) would result in a 6 fold increase in National Forest logging across the state.
These dramatic increases in logging would be achieved by undermining America’s public lands legacy by simply having members of Congress mandate dramatic increases in industrial logging by exempting ALL National Forest logging sales up to 15.6 square miles (10,000 acres) in size each from public input, environmental analysis and gutting the Endangered Species Act.
Rep Daines’ “Logging Without Laws” bill also has the US Congress simply closing the US Federal Court House doors, forbidding any citizen lawsuits on certain types of industrial logging projects, which is inherently undemocratic. Daines’ bill applies to all of America’s 155 National Forests, not just those National Forests in Montana.
You can learn some more specifics about Daines logging bill here:
As a dedicated backcountry hunter myself I believe that some serious changes need to be made to the Rocky Mountain Front Heritage Act, while Daines’ mandated logging bill should just be dismissed out of hand for all the ways it undermines America’s public lands legacy. Too bad MOGA doesn’t understand these simple truths. Thanks.
I am honestly for a 2 year mental evaluation check for gun holders. And that it is required that anyone with a gun register with the NRA. You fail to do either one, and you are simply denied your gun.
5 year mental evaluation check for people who live with a gun owner.
If Ms. de Pastino would have taken a moment to question her assumption that we are in the midst of an "epidemic of gun violence", she may have discovered that violence is actually at historic lows. Since the early 1990's when "shall issue" concealed carry laws gained traction, rates of violence have dropped 50%. Places were violence remain a problem are "Gun Free Zone" urban areas where citizens still remain unable to carry a firearm for self-defense. Most violence in these areas is drug-related.
Regarding attacks on children in school, since the "Gun Free Schools Zones Act" was implemented in the late-1990s, sociopathic killers have understood that we make our students convenient defenseless targets. It should be obvious to all that defenseless kids are not safe. All defending them requires is allowing staff with permits to carry like they do everywhere else. This will deter the vast majority of cowardly kid killers.
The history of gun control is one of failure. Assumptions that "more guns = more violence" clearly aren't confirmed by the facts. It is past time for Americans to wake up and stop listening to Bloomberg-funded propaganda - and to take responsibility for self-defense. Our kids depend on it.
Good lord, it seems like people these days are offended so easily. I mean, WHO CARES?! In fact, the term Montucky does not have anything to do with Kentucky. It's just a slang term like Pennsyltucky, slang for Pennsylvania. Get off your period already and lighten up!
footloose should have to tell the truth or not be printed. Time and again someone in their organization puts out a lie on a weekly basis to get votes on their ballot box biology which should be illegal in the Montana constitution as it is no way to follow the North American plan that has brought all the wild life, including wolves, to a viable population throughout the country. Some folks think it is legal to allow their dogs to chase game animals, horses, etc., they also don't know it is the law to either have them on a leash if they are not trained to mind and be in your immediate control. These same people run their dogs on wintering deer and elk in closed area because they think they have a right to break the law. I for one will not let someone from a sterile land as Germany, who lives in the Bitteroot tell me and the F&G how to handle our states wildlife
for an objective overview of trapping:
“Over 50” is a small exaggeration. In 2012-13 MFWP reported 50 dogs caught and 26 of those were at large. Another 4 were with owners trespassing on private land. According MFWP 2013-14 reports that number dropped nearly in half to 26. With MFWP estimated 50,000 traps you have a .05% chance of your pet being caught in a trap. It is your own fear and the misinformed information from the anti-trappers that is keeping you off of public lands. “Montana has a proud history of sharing public lands”, but your animal rights activist group wants to destroy that history based off of fear and misdirected lies.
Great letter, although there are a lot of morons that won't get it!
What a perfect juxtaposition in this week's "voices." An entertaining, articulate, and meaningful challenge to stop marginalizing alternate points of view as moron talk; followed by a diatribe, written by an elected official, who declares (in his FIRST SENTENCE) that any and all who identify as Democrats are morons. Thank you Tim Petersen for speaking up. Thank you Bob Lake for proving Tim's point.
Thank you George Price and Indian People's Action for organizing against the megaloads and the tar sands blight upon the Earth.
Great letter pointing out the hypocrisy of the Obama Administration.
See also: "Facts, science dispute misinformed lawmaker’s views on sage grouse"
By Ben Deeble, Co-chair of the Dillion, MT working group on sage grouse – comprised of agencies, conservation groups, academics and ranchers.
Be sure you test those cats for ALL of the following diseases, or I hope the recipient of one of them that you adopt-out sues you so bad you never recover from it.
These are just the diseases these invasive species vermin cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Bovine Tuberculosis, Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Tularemia, and Rat-Bite Fever can now also be added to that list.
Yes, "The Black Death" (the plague) is alive and well today and being spread by people's CATS. People have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. For a fun read, one of hundreds of cases, Google for: Cat-Transmitted Fatal Pneumonic Plague
Oh, by the way, you did know, didn't you, that giving a rabies shot to a cat that already has rabies does not cure it of rabies? Google for: RABID KITTEN ADOPTED WAKE COUNTY (for just one example of hundreds of rabid cats adopted from outdoors). A vetted cat can STILL transmit rabies if it was harvested from unknown living conditions with an unknown vaccination history. May one of those cats you adopt-out have rabies too. Is your liability insurance in excess of $10M? Either quarantine them for 6 or more months at your OWN expense (as required by national and international law), or euthanize them. Those are your only 2 options to be relatively certain you are not handing rabies to someone. Isn't reality fun?
Due to TNR practices (trap, neuter, re-abandon), cats are now the #1 domesticated animal to transmit rabies to humans (the cats testing positive after a bite, scratch, or attack). This is why the CDC has now given the following conclusion and warnings on all TNR practices for idiots that don't know how rabies vaccines work.
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Cats' most insidious disease of all, their Toxoplasma gondii parasite they spread through their excrement into all other animals. This is how humans get it in their dinner-meats, cats roaming around stockyards and farms (herbivores can contract this parasite in no other way). This is why cats are routinely destroyed around gestating livestock or important wildlife by shooting or drowning them. So those animals won't suffer from the same things that can happen to the unborn fetus of any pregnant woman. (Miscarriages, still-births, hydrocephaly, and microcephaly.) It can make you blind or even kill you at any time during your life once you've been infected. It becomes a permanent lifetime parasite in your mind, killing you when your immune system becomes compromised by disease or chemo and immunosuppressive therapies. It can last over a year in any soils or waters and not even washing your hands or garden vegetables in bleach will destroy the oocysts. Contrary to cat-lickers' self-deceptive myths, a cat can become reinfected many times during its life and spread millions of oocysts each time. It's now linked to the cause of autism, schizophrenia, and brain cancers; as well as increasing the suicide rate in women almost 2-fold even though they've never suffered from any mental or emotional health issues previously. This parasite is also killing off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from cats' T. gondii oocysts in run-off from the land, the oocysts surviving even in saltwater.
Its strange life cycle is meant to infect rodents. Any rodents infected with it lose their fear of cats and are attracted to cat urine.
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Cats attract rodents to your home with their whole slew of diseases (like The Plague from rats and fleas, many people have died from cat-transmitted Plague in the USA already, it is alive and well and being spread by cats today). If you want rodents in your home keep cats outside of it to attract diseased rodents to your area. I experienced this phenomenon (as have many others), and all rodent problems disappeared after I shot and buried every last one of hundreds of cats on my lands.
Another interesting experiment. They wanted to find out if dogs could possibly transmit cat-shat Toxoplasma gondii oocysts. A dog infected with T. gondii from a source-cat cannot. That stage of the parasite's life-cycle is 100% dependent on cat-physiology as its primary reproductive host. But if dogs ingest oocyst-laden cat-feces then dogs can pass the oocysts produced by cats & their common brain-hijacking parasite.
ncbi.nlm.nih D0T gov SLASH pubmed/9477489?dopt=Abstract&holding=f1000,f1000m,isrctn
It is interesting to note: That these Toxoplasma gondii oocysts shed by cats can even survive the hydrochloric stomach acids for the duration that they remain in a mammal's digestive tract. And then they doubt my words when I tell them of the studies where they found that this parasite's oocysts (seeds) can even survive washing your hands in bleach. You could wash your hands and garden vegetables in hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes for the same duration that food remains in an animal's digestive tract and even that won't destroy it. Your hands would be dissolved into a digestible pulp long before you could kill the Toxoplasma gondii oocysts.
Yeah, "basic hygiene" is going to keep your kids safe from going blind sometime during their life, becoming autistic, or die if they ever require any immunosuppressive therapies during their lifetime if they had ever played in a sandbox that a neighbor's cat has defecated in.
The TNR CON-GAME
FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.
FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)
FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, eaten from the inside-out by parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. And pitting cat against cat to fight-to-the-death for territory is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT than those who run criminal dog-fight rings to see who wins. They spend YEARS in jail. IT IS A HIGHLY PUNISHABLE CRIME TO FORCE *ANY* DOMESTICATED ANIMALS TO FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR THEIR VERY SURVIVAL.
FACT: The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death and forcing them to fight-to-the-death for survival; is that money isn’t going into Becky Robinson's Alley-Cat-All-Lies pocket, or an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference! Support yet another organization that exploits and perpetuates the suffering of animals for their own personal financial gain, then try to sleep well at night.
FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their hoarded cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)
FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)
FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.
FACT: In _FOURTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES branch of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.
FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.
FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there are no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR FOUR YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.
FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!
Lie much? You still have the cats. This means you still have all the original problems you complained about.
As a "regular", whatever that means, patron of Charlie's I think your criticism is basically an underhanded crock. One huge appeal of Charlie's is the atmosphere provided by the bartenders who seem to have a good time and do a great job making sure everyone else is having a good time as well. The same bartenders also provide some of the quickest service in town despite a very crowded bar on a Friday or Saturday night.
I love non-"plebeian" American roots music also but that doesn't mean I want to listen to it every night at Charlie's from 10 to 2.
Conway Twitty asked a better question "I wonder what she'll think about me leaving", my guess... I doubt they'll even notice you're gone.
From one of the "kids these days"
I felt like my above link to Mr. Shaws post was sinking to his level and I apologize. However I still feel
the need to rep Charlie's for Charlie's. I was sad to read his letter to the editor. Not only do I love my job at Charlie's, but I thoroughly enjoy being a patron, and have for years now. I would never in my wildest dreams disparage a place like CB's, no matter how entitled I might feel about "how it should be". Shame on you Michael Shaw, whomever you may be.
More importantly- to our amazing customers at CB's- we will continue to use your good vibes to dictate our jams! Look forward to more fun times!! We love you!
Michael Shaw you are a nut job and feel free to stay away from Charlie's sincerely, Everyone.
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