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Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

It is refreshing to hear the media realize the threat of the alt-right. Liberals of all areas need to radicalize in these times and be ready for these fascists, who have no coyness towards violence. "Leftist gun culture" needs to lose it's oxymoronic connotation.

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Posted by Mikej Dittrich on 05/22/2017 at 8:32 PM

Re: “The Missoulian's Gianforte endorsement? We beg to differ.

Hope all the good folks in Montana see this. If you rely on SNAP or Medicaid, you are screwed.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/22/trump-budget-cut-social-programs-238696

Posted by Steven Shapiro on 05/22/2017 at 8:04 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

Excuse but it is very clear with thousands of proof that this article is full of it! Fake news and dishonest! "alt-right groups continue to exacerbate tensions, engaging in public fist fights with anti-fascists" There are thousands of articles, with no spin at all to them, that shows and proves the opposite of this article! The Missoulian is fake news!

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Posted by TruthBeTold on 05/22/2017 at 3:16 PM

Re: “Good theater and the meaning of life in Between the Lines' production of Stupid Fucking Bird

I absolutely loved this production. The casting was perfect. I could hear; I could see; I could laugh; I could cry. I could relate. The time flew.
Congratulations tonMason Wagner for risking & making this year's series happen. All the seats were full so he is tapping into audience who wants more new work. Keep it coming Mason!!

Posted by Sandy Sheppard on 05/20/2017 at 11:14 PM

Re: “The Missoulian's Gianforte endorsement? We beg to differ.

Gianforte will sell your ass down the river for the 1%.....it's not about the businessman or the new musician in town. It's about what they represent..giving the 1% more money to buy public lands and closing it off to the public or having a guitar player who has a lot to learn about politics. I say give the picker a chance.

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Posted by Mike Fredreickson on 05/20/2017 at 7:39 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

If you never own a gun you'll never understand gun owners. 'They must consider that great responsibility follows inseparably from great power.'

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Posted by nemo on 05/20/2017 at 10:02 AM

Re: “Muddy the waters: Ken Ham, Greg Gianforte, and the creationist assault on science in Montana

I believe that you believe!
Why can't you just live and let live?
If your religion requires you to hate someone......you need a new religion!

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Posted by Joseph Smith on 05/20/2017 at 6:53 AM

Re: “Happiest Hour: The Forest Lounge

On a lucky random evening, you may run into a regular or two like the Notorious PAC, or perhaps the Mayor. Listen to great tunes from Waylon to Cube to Cinderella. If you yell DELANEY loud enuff you could win at Keno.

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Posted by ewublows on 05/19/2017 at 10:14 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

There is a case to be made for making guns not a 100% conservative cause. There are lots of progressive gun owners in Montana and America and maybe if that were better known, more shared, and more loudly proclaimed, the Right might be convinced that we aren't trying to take away their guns, just trying to further public safety.

But this article does not make that case. Instead, this is a very odd and unfortunate descent into paranoia and fear mongering. The succession of impossible "ifs" that leads to some imagined future where we need to take up arms against our neighbors because of political differences is hurried, silly, and inflammatory.

The barely-contained excitement at the thought of needing a weapon weapon to defend yourself from political opponents is childish fantasy. Owning a gun is not a radical act, because owning a gun has nothing to do with the power that Americans have over each other and our government. That power is in culture, in self-expression, in town hall meetings, in conversation, in community, in the voting booth, and in each of our ability to convince ourselves and each other that we can and must slowly but constantly work, not fight, but work for a better America and a better world.

You want a shortcut to feeling like you've done something...a few hundred bucks and a fun little toy. It's childish and it's embarrassing. Do better, Indie.

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Posted by Hank on 05/19/2017 at 10:07 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

Son, you offer some good food for thought, but watching a bit too much MSNBC. I may be wrong, but I didn't see neos or alt rights shutting down UC Berkley recently. Good luck.

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Posted by Dan on 05/19/2017 at 5:41 PM

Re: “Happiest Hour: The Forest Lounge

They have awesome lunch specials everyday... Prime Ribs just awesome and the chefs home John... Omlette bars, taco bars, anything you eat there is awesome!

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Posted by Stephanie Standing Rock on 05/19/2017 at 5:15 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

Well thanks for this steaming pile of an article.

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Posted by AK4life on 05/19/2017 at 2:03 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

Lots o' herpin', derpin', rootin' n' tootin' in these here comments.

Good write-up, MS.

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Posted by A Very Nony Moose on 05/19/2017 at 12:24 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

Take it from this old UM Missoula hippie. Your article is fear-mongering. Who are the fascist thugs shutting down freedom of speech? Not conservative Americans. You haven't done your research if you're going to lump conservative Americans and Montanans with the ridiculous and minuscule Klan goons. We're your grannies who show up at the t-ball field and feed you dinner afterwards and read you bedtime stories. We're the only glue holding this state and nation together. I expect better reporting from the Independent.

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Posted by Howdy Do Partner on 05/19/2017 at 10:44 AM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Since a Militia is well-regulated, it fits the definition of an association. In fact, the Militia is the only association mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

First amendment rights to associate imply that the Militia is all that matters in the Second Amendment. Within a well-regulated Militia, people have the right to bear arms. One of the first militias from Pennsylvania called themselves the First Battalion of Associators.

English common law 1688 is the origin of the Second Amendment: That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defense suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law.

Draft wording of Second Amendment on August 17, 1789: A well-regulated Militia, composed of the body of the People, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.

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Posted by Carole Mackin on 05/19/2017 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Guess who paved the way for the FCC to pave the way for Sinclair Broadcast Group to buy Missoula's KECI—and 55 other stations?

Thanks for the great reporting here!

Is there any citizen or congressional input into this issue? If so, what?

Posted by SES on 05/19/2017 at 9:47 AM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

"Leftist" does not equal "liberal" or "Democrat", Idahomike.

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Posted by ThatOneGuy on 05/19/2017 at 1:11 AM

Re: “Guess who paved the way for the FCC to pave the way for Sinclair Broadcast Group to buy Missoula's KECI—and 55 other stations?

With all the far left garbage out there, it would be a breath of fresh air to hear from a far right news show - and no, FOX News is not far right. It's just slightly conservative, sometimes.

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Posted by Tani J on 05/18/2017 at 11:37 PM

Re: “Guess who paved the way for the FCC to pave the way for Sinclair Broadcast Group to buy Missoula's KECI—and 55 other stations?

With all the far left news channels out there, it would be a breath of fresh air to hear from a far right channel. and NO, FOX news is NOT far right by a long shot.

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Posted by Tani J on 05/18/2017 at 11:36 PM

Re: “How—and why—Missoula progressives could reclaim guns for the left

That was three pages of bull squirt. If any of your liberal readers do feel so scared that they need a gun for protection, I hope they get lots of training, and get a lot of range time in. That liberal boogeyman, the NRA, offers lots of classes on gun safety, or perhaps I should say, lots of NRA certified instructors, men and women, offer lots of classes. Stay safe.

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Posted by idahomike on 05/18/2017 at 10:51 PM

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