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Re: “Unconventional times

"Vote Drumpf - at least you won't be lied to."

While not a perfect organization, Politifact would vehemently disagree.

And his numbers there are fare worse when compared with Hillary.

What say you, truth works?

Posted by SPQR on 07/29/2016 at 7:37 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

Please list all of Hillary's accomplishments, with verifiable links, to support your claim. And please include the Clinton Foundation that for some reason wasn't mentioned once during the DNC.

Posted by niam on 07/29/2016 at 3:55 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

After a long life spent as an Independent/Socialist, Bernie became a Democrat one year ago for the sole purpose of running for president. He already had everything he needed to run a brilliant third-party campaign, but he opted for two-party politics and he lost. Because of his efforts, the Dems are more progressive on a handful of policy ideas and that's great. His followers should be proud. But booing the nominee after the fact or running off to a third party at this late stage serves no one but Trump and smacks of the same kind nihilistic permanent-protest mode of the Tea Party.

The DNC had their favorite because their favorite had been sheparding the party for decades. They didn't thumb the scale or stuff the ballot. They bitched to each other in private about an insurgent candidate. That's not corruption; it's a political law of gravity. I'm not being cynical to say so and you're not naive to want a more progressive left.

Strong and dynamic parties resist or absorb insurgencies. Weak and brittle parties are prey to them. That's why Sanders left a mark but Trump burnt the place down. I'm not sure parties are really good for anything except providing a shortcut to take over a democracy. But I do know Hillary Clinton remains the best candidate to lead the planet. And this is just as true now as it was when there were 487 people running.

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Posted by Karl Miller on 07/29/2016 at 2:40 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

At least Trump admits who he is and thats a great start because we've got zero honesty now.

Anyone thinking straight and living in reality would rather support truth over lies. Unless of course they're a liar themselves.

Has anyone ever known anyone that lied to their face? sugar coated everything only to find out later on they actually thought differently? thats a two faced person a liar that cannot be trusted.

Has anyone ever asked someone if they looked good and everyone tells them they look great? when they didn't? Anyone that wants an honest relationship and one that you feel safe in because they tell it to you like it is will know that the best friend for life will be the one that says no you look bad in that outfit you should change because thats real and real is genuine.

Not rocket science but now we have been groomed and coached to live in a world when someone tells it like it is and says brash statements that hurt your feelings when they are true of course goes under appreciated.

This is systemic - why so many complain in divorce court saying I never knew you felt this way? the partner responds - well its because you always flipped out when I told you so I just decided to not say anything or lie so we didn't fight. Our country is in divorce court at the highest levels of our government against the people. You wonder why we're all afraid of our government. Thinking they're up to no good. Its simply because people choose to be lied too instead of the truth. Why is that because people cannot handle the truth. We did it to ourselves.

Vote Trump - at least you won't be lied too. Maybe it will give everyone a chance to grow up and learn that truth may hurt sometimes but in the long run its healthier for everyone.

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Posted by truth works on 07/29/2016 at 10:45 AM

Re: “Unconventional times

FACTS: Democrats supported and pushed for a bill that stops americans from filing a lawsuit against Monsanto. Democrats supported and pushed for a bill to allow fracking.

Monsanto? Fracking? they've got some large set to point their fingers at republicans and or even say they're any better or different.

Any bleeding heart granola eating Missoulian preaching about organic and environment that votes for a democrat is a fraud.

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Posted by fraud on 07/29/2016 at 8:59 AM

Re: “Unconventional times

This Bernie supporter will be voting for Trump.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 07/28/2016 at 11:29 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

Now that Madame Clinton has been officially coronated, it boggles my mind that with the U.S.'s population being something on the order of 320-330 million people, the "best" (?) presidential candidates the two major political parties could come up with are Il Duce Trumpolini and Lady McDeath.

It's my considered opinion (and there's plenty of evidence to support it) that both are cynical and hypocritical, avaricious and rapacious. Both have monumental egos; they're both absolutely amoral, and both are serial, pathological liars. They're sleazy and untrustworthy. In short -- with apologies to all things that slither, creep and crawl -- I consider them both contemptible, reprehensible reptiles. Those are just a few of their more obvious defects. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. But in today's world, I think those may very well be requisites for anyone who hopes to hold high office, public or private.

Maybe the nomination of these two unworthies and the processes by which they got to where they are says something deeper and darker, not only about our broken and failed political system, but about our country as a whole.

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Posted by alf on 07/28/2016 at 2:35 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

BTW here's a more direct link to the movie. Clinton Cash - Official Movie Premiere - YouTube…

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Posted by niam on 07/28/2016 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

Thanks for the Clinton Cash link. As a Libertarian I do vote for who ever supports less govt and stands by our Constitutionally protected rights. In other words anyone who keeps their nose out of my life and their hands out of my pockets! Right now there's no one who comes close, Gary Johnson included. Hitlery is definitely out! PERIOD. Hitlery. an elected official who did nothing, was in bed with one and appointed by and endorsed by another lying despot and has a questionable foundation I'd be brain dead to vote for her!

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Posted by niam on 07/28/2016 at 1:33 PM

Re: “Unconventional times

Who could dream up 2 worse candidates then these two? Take an hour to watch this documentary "Clinton Cash" . On one hand we have the most corrupt and dishonest candidate in modern history, and on the other hand we have foot in the mouth Trump. Link is below.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 07/28/2016 at 12:24 PM

Re: “Break with convention

xenophobic grief.....what's wrong with those people?

Posted by Jim Smith on 07/21/2016 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Break with convention

His devotion to the other 98% of the GOP platform is what drives me to do everything in my power to send Denise to DC to replace him. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I'm glad to see so many of my fellow veterans continuing to serve their country even after discharge but his Party has lost it's bearings and is foundering on Fascist shores. Voting for anything other than the GOP candidates is simply a matter of self defense-we cannot allow the Greedy Oligarch Party to continue their destruction of our government, the tool We The People use to protect ourselves from aristocratic rule.

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Posted by bob petersen on 07/21/2016 at 12:44 PM

Re: “Smells like town spirit

Deja vu all over again....sort of....

The East Asians who migrated to the Americas from what is believed to have been Southwest Siberia can be said to have had a similar experience in all that they have lost and was taken from them by migrating colonialists in just a few generations. But the crimes committed on the First peoples of the Americas can not be compared to the migrations of today and deserve far more than just one line and I can not and will not try to serve that properly here.

Human migrations can be interesting:
From Africa to the world as a whole.
There was the First Peoples to the Americas from East Asia.
The Europeans to the Americas for colonialism.

To more modern times:
The dust bowl era mostly to California.
The rust belt to the southeastern part of the states for jobs and a better quality of life for their kids.

But the migrations are different now, seems to be more about whatever is trendy at the time:
Everybody in New England knows what a “Masshole” is.
Upstate New York disowns the city.
“Damn Yankees ruined The South”.
Wisconsin complains about Illinois.
Everybody from the Rocky Mountain states west complain about Californians.
Anybody remember Southern Utah or Colorado thirty years ago? Really some cool places before they were put on a map....

The new migrations seem to be focused on the rocky mountain states now, and specifically on Montana; but nobody comes to Montana for money unless you're a miner, real estate speculator, or a developer. So what is creating such a large draw? Why are so many migrating to a place that is expensive to live in and becoming more so as it grows and becomes more crowded and has few good paying jobs? Was it all those trendy magazine articles rating Missoula as the top ten of this, that, and the other thing?

Most Californians learned to be quiet about where they came from and why they were migrating here. Washingtonians were the opposite. They loudly and enthusiastically declared Montana to be “god's country” and therefor the trendiest place to be, and “Washington to be a hellhole” back in the late 90s, and by 2006, it seemed Washington state had annexed Western Montana. --why are local real estate prices nearly three times what local income can afford?

It is a bit too late, the horse has been let out of the barn, but we are experiencing some serious growing pains around here and we need to learn to step much more lightly and think about what we are doing to a place we all want to love before it is loved and capitalized on to death. I'm tell you that this cancerous growth this place is inflicted with is not sustainable and will kill this place! It has been seen many times before!

The “Last Best Place” is well on its' way to being just like everywhere else....but too expensive for locals to afford!

Posted by Joe Nomad on 07/17/2016 at 7:12 PM

Re: “The long view

Yes it's true old ladies at school athletic events have been known to use the boy's bathroom. It's a common scene. A big crowd -- women and girls lined up at the girl's bathroom. Boy's room has emptied out.

Grandma forgot to put on her Depends and there's no denying -- it's an emergency. The only sane course of action is to post a guard at the boy's bathroom and follow nature's call. The alternative would be a puddle in the hall.

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Posted by Carole Mackin on 07/15/2016 at 8:55 AM

Re: “The long view

Dan Brooks is a friggin Idiot. I thank I'll go wipe my a-- with his bull shit article.

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Posted by jr2jr2000 on 07/14/2016 at 4:06 PM

Re: “The long view

I've said several times before in my comments on articles in the Indy that Montana seems, unfortunately, to be getting more and more like Idaho. And this is another example.

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Posted by alf on 07/14/2016 at 1:56 PM

Re: “The long view

Thanks for brightening up my day. Attorney General Fox certainly marches to the beat of his own drummer, however off the beat it is.

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Posted by capbob on 07/14/2016 at 11:27 AM

Re: “The long view

I really don't know how I lived my life up to mid-2016 while this monumental problem was simmering under the surface. Just think, all through the 90s and 2000s we had this bathroom problem and we didn't even know. How did we manage? Thank God we're talking about it now. I can feel the world getting better already.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 07/14/2016 at 9:53 AM

Re: “Smells like town spirit

We Indians laugh at 'native' and 'longtime' Missoulians and their lily-white statements like:

"You have to try to see it from the eyes of those who knew this place before you came to know it. Because what you came to know, or think you know, is much different from what we knew and loved."

"the best of Missoula was gone before you got here"

"I guard my secrets very carefully anymore and will not participate in things like the "Best of Missoula", or share my favorite places to recreate, what little is left of them"

Posted by Shane on 07/13/2016 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Smells like town spirit

When considering whether Montana is full or not one needs to consider what our quality of life and affordability of life was when Montana had a population of less than 900,000 people, and how we knew and how we were connected to this place. You can't compare this place to any other place, most certainly not New York City.

Now that our population is officially over one million, it takes basically three local incomes to buy local real estate. It is not marketed for or to the locals.
And most all of my favorite places to recreate are now not worth going back to anymore. Traffic? We didn't use to have traffic, just a short time ago.

When considering whether Montana is full or not one needs to also consider tourist visitation: around 4 million for Yellowstone NP and 2.36 million for Glacier NP in 2015.

And we should not forget the constant flow of part-time and transient residents who are not counted in census counts, as well as the constant flow of visitors from Washington state, Oregon, Idaho, Utah, and Colorado -- year round. And then there is this crazy amount of year round travelers from everywhere else as well. We use to have a winter that prohibited this kind of travel insulating us from the crazy growth we are now experiencing.

For some who can look back more than thirty years, and for others who can look back for generations who can see the rapid change this place is now inflicted with, the kind of change that excludes us, is Montana full yet?

You have to try to see it from the eyes of those who knew this place before you came to know it. Because what you came to know, or think you know, is much different from what we knew and loved.

And then there is the issue of seven billion people on this planet and growing....anybody else remember when the milestone of six billion people was going to be an environmental disaster?

Posted by Joe Bear on 07/12/2016 at 2:23 PM

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