Great place for a Cold Micro beer or a burger. One of the best burger I have ever had!
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Helen should verify her "facts" (excerpt):
"In other words, Kennesaw residents were required to own guns ... save for those Kennesaw residents who couldn't afford guns, couldn't use guns, couldn't legally own guns, or simply didn't want to have guns. Essentially, Kennesaw residents were never actually required to own guns, making most assertions about mandatory gun ownership and crime rates in that town highly problematic."
Well Helen, maybe Kennesaw Ga should be your choice spot for vacations.
Being missed on Missoula?
There will be hundreds of thousands every year to replace you.
well the liberals want fair share, how about we take a share of the councilman with the most attendance number and give those attendance numbers to Wells. that would be fair. right, right, right,
am glad to say she is correct in her statements and Engen was wrong in his statement
Seriously sexist shit with 'scold.' Derek and his editor (if y'all still have those) need retraining/ a new job.
Scold. Now there's a loaded word.
It's only a matter of time until marijuana becomes legal, but the retrograde thinkers in the legislature and the DEA continue to cling to outdated and untrue notions about the plant. It's shameful that people who probably have a few (or more) drinks now and then are so upset that marijuana has legitimate medicinal uses.
Excellent letter - mountain bikes and (god forbid) mountain bike races have no legitimate place in the wilderness.
Excellent letter - mountain bikes, and (god forbid) mountain bike races have no legitimate place in the wilderness.
Maybe it's time to look at it a different way. Instead of assigning blame, maybe it's time to ask homeowners and developers to be accountable. If you build in the trees, use fire resistant material and metal roofs. Create a green belt around your house and thin the trees on your property. Don't stack your firewood near your home. Make sure your driveway is wide enough to accommodate fire trucks. Subdivision developers, make sure you provide two ways in and out for emergency responders. The idea that private property owners should not be subject to onerous "government" restrictions (a perennially favorite Ravalli County rant) just means that hundreds of "government" firefighters will have to show up to protect your private property someday. You simply cannot put your private property rights ahead of the lives of firefighters. It's morally and ethically wrong.
The original project that all agreed upon was included the area the blew up so fast on Sunday. The forest service delayed the much needed work in this fire prone area by adding to the project. Once they made the decision to expand the project and build permanent roads, they had to go through scoping and the objection process. If the Forest Service had not done this, it is very possible that that fire prone area would have been thinned before Sunday.
Hey, very nice site. I came across this on Google, and I am stoked that I did. I will definitely be coming back here more often. Wish I could add to the conversation and bring a bit more to the table, but am just taking in as much info as I can at the moment. Thanks for sharing.
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Perhaps all of the tree huggers should live in one heavily forested area and when the fire eventually comes through they can fight it themselves. It sure wouldn't hurt my feelings any.
Your "like" button is showing up as "dislike" probably should fix that.
It's time to slow down and actually read the complaint. First of all this project was funded in 2013 for a straight forward proposal none would object to. The majority of us want to see both hand thinning and commercial thinning. The Rohrbachs are NOT against the logging or thinning, to the contrary what they and most of us who live in the impacted area agree 100%.
The law requires open collaboration with LLC impacted residents. There was NO communication from the Supervisors office and any of the residents who will be directly impacted. To spend a quarter of a million tax dollars on a bridge and road in the south end of the project makes no sense. That area had been treated and has healthy wide spaced Lodgepole and limited understory fuels.
On the other hand the north end is over grown with Doug Fir, downfall and tons of understory. We requested a bid be offered for Ehli logging as Connor Aviation is in our valley. It was assumed by the USFS to be too expensive. A quarter of a million dollars to have a huge negative impact upon Coyote Coulee recreation trail, upon the large elk population that calves in this long time protected area, sediment and dust that would impact irrigation flows, etc; those are just a few of the issues.
The proposal was going to cost a long time B and B their livelihood as well as destroy a privately maintained road due to log hauling trucks. Every property owner gave permission to access the forest treatment area via their property. Not one question was directly answered in a straight forward manner, no alternatives were researched and not one resident impacted was consulted. This was designed to fail by a small hand picked group whose properties were beyongbd the impacted area. Forest Supervisor Julie King has no clue how to work with her community and little interest in learning. Believe me, I tried to develop a relationship with her where we could agree to disagree if we communicated but it turned out to be lots of false words with no earnest intent behind them.
I grew up on Gold Creek. The Rohrbachs are good people and neighbors I respect and admire. If I understand correctly they did not file in opposition to thinning, logging, or forest management. They filed per their belief that it is a poor plan that ignored too many folks, concerns, and better options. Fred is a sharp man, if you hear him out you may agree.
For example if the plan did not adequately address (or even touch) what is currently burning while wasting unnecessary resources on roads, bridges, and mass trucking through our woods they may have a decent case. Trust these aren't enviro-hippies, these are folks who want better management.
Exhibit A: the giant fire at our door
I wanted to rant about our current fire situation also but you guyss got that covered. Without forest management fuels build up and fires are uncontrollable. Roaring Lion
Such good news in this David and Goliath narrative that many of us have followed from the start. Judge Jim Rice's comments about "winning at all costs" are most appropriately applied to the initial game of the giant Carlyle Group. The city was in a tough spot. The owner of our leaky water system had a chip on his shoulder and would not sell the system to the city. The Mayor and the Clarkfork Coalition signed an agreement and gave testimony before the PSC to support The Carlyle Investment Group's purchase of the water, in supposed exchange for Carlyle's written and verbal promises to someday give the city a fair chance to buy the water system from Carlyle. Some of us saw ruse from the start - the escape hatches for Carlyle - in the written agreement. As somebody put it "Carlyle was playing chess and Missoula leaders were playing checkers." And Carlyle played Missoula, arrogantly showing a lack of good faith in giving us a fair chance to purchase. It was humiliating for Engen - and infuriating for many of us. In the end, though, I think it was the Mayor's deep love for his city and his indignation (shared by many) - even Engen's small town innocence and trust in the handshake of another person - that has fueled this awkward fight and this epic victory. Of course, it was also fueled by 6 million of our dollars for some top notch but exorbitantly paid lawyers. I hope that other giants with financial means - who are fueled by love of Missoula and Montana - will help us pay down the burden of legal bills and purchase costs sooner than later, so that citizens can be directly investing in the updating of the pipes and pumps that being water from our precious aquifer to our homes and businesses. When it is all settled, shall we re-name Waterworks Hill in honor of this victory of love?
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