A word of warning to citizens in the Helena area: If you enjoy recreating on YOUR public lands--and particularly if you take pleasure in sharing Montana's Great Outdoors with your canine companion--be aware that a gun-wielding man named Joe is at large and is unable to distinguish the difference between a wild wolf and a groomed malamute wearing a collar with a light mounted on it. It's possible he will shoot first and determine his target later. Further, Joe advises that you keep your companion(s) on leash for a full six months of the year on YOUR public lands so as not to impede his quest for a wolf trophy.
"Hunter kills companion dog: I thought it was a wolf"
In reading these comments, I am so angered by the ignorance of some people. Come on hunting freaks! This person that was a so-called hunter was an obvious idiot who never attended a Hunters Safety Course a day in his life. He made a huge error and killed someone's dog - which is a BIG thing. It is not to be taken lightly. That's all that should be important in this case. The "hunter" was WRONG. PERIOD. He should have his license taken away permanently for the mere fact that he's too much of an idiot to own a gun. Who knows who or what he'll shoot next "by mistake" ... ooops!!!
Well stated Sandi and Jobs
I find your letter to forget coal a disservice to all of Montana. We all benefit from coal weather it is the coal tax or the jobs or the money the jobs bring back to Montana. What is your job is it 100 percent great for the environment? Are you a teacher I bet you use paper. Another resource we are pushing out of America and now get elsewhere how good was that for Montana and Missoula. Are you someone who doesn't live at work I bet you use a car to get to work once in a while or a bus which both burn fossil fuel should we forget gas and diesel also?
Claudia, John Roeber is one of those rare truly decent, heart-working, and totally selfless men. He does represent, and speak for, everything the AFL-CIO is working toward. He is a forward thinker, a well respected labor leader, and a Blue-Green believer and is working all opportunities to move a balanced agenda. Open your ears.
Supporting coal jobs and the responsible development of them has nothing to do with crazy Tea Party politics. This view almost makes you too absurd to take seriously and the issue of secure pensions and corporate sins is an issue for all workplaces. It is not unique to coal mining.
What is your job Claudia? How were your kids fed? What if we were wishing we had transitioned your job a decade ago? Opinions come easy from the cheap seats don't they?
I never considered myself anti-hunter, but I'm starting to feel that way due to the tendency for those same people who urge the public to consider them wise and responsible managers of our collective wildlife to defend to the death clear cases of hunter misconduct such as this. The dog had a flashing collar on, and there is no evidence whatsoever that this dog was a wolf hybrid - all the pictures I've seen look pure malamute to me. Talk about blaming the victim. Even if all that conjecture were true, it wouldn't change the fact that he was hunting in an area where it's illegal. Take responsibility and call out unethical members of your community instead of sticking by them.
MT FWP's 'hands off' position regarding this dog killing incident, brings into serious doubt the ethics of Montana's state wildlife agency. If a hunter shoots a cow or another person instead of a deer it is usually grounds for a charge of some sort. But kill a dog and it is okay? I guess a hunter only has to be sure of about certain game and not have to be a responsible hunter all the time! Of course some blame the dog owner. I guess public lands only belong to the hunter now????
Killing for pleasure or willingly inflicting pain is questionable behavior. An aberrant and deviant considered condition by most people. The hunter who fires away with total disregard of what is around him is a menace. I have had hunters in my family so I am not someone with a "knee jerk" reaction.
I do not live in Montana but I used to live in the mountains of Colorado along the Front Range. We lost our Malamute the same way, only the guy told us he was looking to make "Wolf gloves". We had Josh from 5 weeks old and it was absolutely heartbreaking to lose him that way. Unresponsible people with guns make this our public lands very unsafe.
Very well said Kathleen...my heart aches for Layne Spencer.
Thanks Missoula Independent. Your paper is the only one with a heart. The Missoulian has sunk so low a sink hole would cover it up. Thanks for helping to keep Missoulians sane.
Geez - you assume the dog owner is telling the truth - a very nebulous assumption. You also reveal an anti-hunting attitude, and your assertion that a dog caught in a trap cannot be removed by its owner seems absurd. Just go ahead and release your dog, in the extremely rare event that it's caught in a trap. Dogs are not designated fur bearers.
The fact that no state or local law enforcement agency finds anything wrong with pumping five or more bullets into a dog, after the owner, in full view, shouts NOOOO, is horrifying. In fact, the killer is being protected by our law enforcement. What? If your dog is caught in a trap, and you remove your dog or that trap YOU have broken the law. Your dog is the property of the trapper once caught in his trap. Whose public lands are these, anyway?
sad to see once again some anti hunter and trapper type get their knee jerk lopsided reaction printed in the Independent. The whole story hasn't even come out, assault rifle with silencer , come on dopey, I bet his dog was out of his control, way out in front, a sad situation yes, but a really stupid remark from the dog owner who has no blame in the world for what happened during a hunting season with a dog that closely resembles wolves, I have seen plenty in AK so I know they are not much different looking, this one was a wolf cross too most likely, and how dumb can you be to go out without orange on you and your dogs, heck I plaster my horses with blaze orange!!
Here’s some new information to consider regarding Rep Doc Hastings (R-WA) and Rep Steve Daines (R-MT) mandated logging bill, the so-called “Restoring Healthy Forests for Healthy Communities Act” (HR 1526), which passed the US House on September 20.
In Montana, it’s estimated that Rep Daines’ mandated logging bill would result in a 6 fold increase in National Forest logging across the state. However, the logging mandates contained in Daines’ bill would impact each National Forest differently. As such, it’s estimated that Daines’ bill would result in:
• 300 X’s more logging on the Helena National Forest;
• 150 X’s more logging on the Lewis and Clark National Forest;
• 30 X’s more logging on the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest;
• 13 X’s more logging on the Lolo National Forest;
• 7 X’s more logging on the Gallatin National Forest;
• 6 X’s more logging on the Kootenai National Forest; and
• 4 X’s more logging on the Flathead National Forest.
(Note: Compared with 2012 National Forest timber sale volumes)
These dramatic increases in logging would be achieved by undermining America’s public lands legacy by simply having members of Congress mandate dramatic increases in industrial logging by exempting all National Forest logging sales up to 15.6 square miles in size from public input, environmental analysis and gutting the Endangered Species Act.
Rep Daines’ “Logging Without Laws” bill also has the US Congress simply closing the US Federal Court House doors, forbidding any citizen lawsuits on certain types of industrial logging projects, which is inherently undemocratic. Daines’ bill applies to all of America’s 155 National Forests, not just those National Forests in Montana.
New information also reveals that, contrary to claims by Rep Hastings and Rep Daines, rural counties throughout America would get less money for roads and schools under the Hastings/Daines mandated logging bill than what they current receive through Secure Rural Schools funding.
While Rep Daines, Senator Tester (D-MT) and the timber industry claim “gridlock” prevents National Forest logging, between 2008 and 2012 the US Forest Service sold enough logging sales in Montana and North Idaho to fill over 239,000 logging trucks, which if lined up end-to-end, would stretch for 2,048 miles.
Fortunately, President Obama has threatened to veto Rep Daines mandated logging bill. The battle now goes to the US Senate, which in theory should be against mandating huge increases in National Forest logging through “Logging Without Laws” and gutting the Endangered Species Act, limiting public input and environmental analysis.However, the fact that Senator Tester and Senator Baucus (D-MT) have their very own mandated National Forest logging bill (the Forest Jobs and Recreation Act) already introduced in the US Senate all bets are off and basically anything can happen in the Senate.
Certainly it doesn’t help the political situation that Sen Tester, Sen Baucus and groups like the Montana Wilderness Association, National Wildlife Federation and Montana Trout Unlimited also support politicians mandating huge logging increases of our National Forests through Tester’s Forest Jobs and Recreation Act (FJRA). Make no mistake, both the Daines and Tester bill would be an extreme and radical departure from over 100 years of America’s public lands legacy.Remember, Montanans have been bombarded since 2009 with a million dollar plus advertising and public relations campaign supporting Tester’s mandated logging bill paid for largely by the out-of-state Pew Foundation.
According to official tax forms, as far back as 2009 the Pew Foundation’s Campaign for America’s Wilderness actually hired the Montana Wilderness Association as an “Independent Contractor” to the tune of $304,500.00 in just 2009 alone. Montanans have also witnessed one-sided, down and pony show “public meetings” on Tester’s bill in which only hand-picked supporters of Tester’s bill were allowed to speak to the crowd. And who hasn’t noticed the dozens of canned, scripted Letters to the Editor (most of which from college students without a firm grasp on these issues) cheerleading for Congress to mandate more logging through Tester’s bill?
Let’s also not forget that all summer long we watched the Montana Wilderness Association spend some of their money on an Ad campaign making Rep Steve Daines (a “Tea Party” member of the House) out to be some great “bi-partisian” and encouraging Daines to work together with Senator Tester and Senator Baucus to support Tester’s mandated logging bill. Honestly, how good of a strategy is it to publicly encourage a “Tea Party” member of the US House to work together to support mandated logging of our public national forest lands? How naive must you be to actually think that getting Rep Daines involved with Tester’s mandated logging bill wouldn’t actually make Tester’s bill that much worse?
While the Montana Wilderness Association was busy all summer courting Rep Daines to be their new BFF not one single person from the Montana Wilderness Association (or any of the other environmental ‘collaborators’ supporting Senator Tester’s mandated logging bill) managed to uttered one single peep of protest, concern or opposition about Rep Daines’ very own mandated logging bill, which cuts the public process, NEPA analysis and effectivness of the ESA.
And what about the Montana Wilderness Association’s “timber mill partners” from their much lauded private “collaboration?” Do you think the Montana timber industry supports Rep Daines mandated logging bill? Of course they do! And one can assume the timber industry has no problem dropping Montana Wilderness Association like a bad habitat once the industry gets what they really wanted in the form of Rep Daines mandated logging bill.
In December 2009, as I sat in the US Senate’s Energy and Natural Resource’s Committee hearing room, I heard Montana Wilderness Association’s director Tim Baker (who is now Gov Bullock’s “Natural Resource Adviser”) tell the Committee that MWA wouldn’t support Tester’s bill is the logging mandates were removed. So too, Sun Mountain Lumber owner Sherm Anderson told the Committee the timber industry wouldn’t support Senator Tester’s mandated logging bill without the Wilderness acres. Well, looks to me like Montana’s timber industry has dumped MWA in front of Daines’ mandated logging bus. All is fair in love and legislation, I guess.
While Chris obviously missed Brooks' satire, his sentiment reflects widespread angst against a small minority of ideologues and free market zealots who pursued their agenda no matter who it harmed when they shut down the government. This Tea Party demagoguery must stop, and its up to us as voters to make it happen!
Never read "A Modest Proposal," Chris.
Thank you, Chris! The irresponsibility you highlight is frightening. We can't have people in this country that focus on themselves while missing the real issues and not seeing what's really going on.
How much did this ticket cost you?
Dear Rev. Strong,
Perhaps “we” are at war with ourselves …and you have chosen to vent on us.
Pattee Canyon, Blue Mountain and the Rattlesnake are Missoula’s backyard playground. I don't think anyone has the illusion that Crazy Canyon is a wilderness. I suspect that you live in a house that has a yard that you maintain at a higher level than Crazy Canyon even with it’s thinned trees. Our urban interface recreation areas are similar in that “for the greater good” they require more intensive management than wilderness to accommodate the most legitimate needs.
The more wild woods you seem to seek are just about a mile further out. If that still isn't sufficient we have lots of true wilderness available… really close.
I agree with you 100%. Well written letter and sadly very true. Within my family we have several nurses who work very long hours with little pay. Each of them are struggling with the same issues you listed.
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