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Re: “Pat Brook has nothing against beavers, but Hurricane Katrina forced his hand

Releasing the beavers downstream at Kelly Island and below has resulted in additional tree kills there. It's just moving the tree kill away from the public eye.
There has been a beaver den across from the Bark Park for the last year. (Go to the first bench on the river side and look across for the water-level "stack of sticks" behind Albertsons.) Then follow the Bark Park bank and look low for cut branches on not just trees but brush.
"So Brook is now crafting a new plan, one that calls for installing large beaver-resistant rocks, or rip-rap, along the threatened stretch of levee. The project will have "a hefty price-tag," he says, and would have to get the OK not just from city administrators, but from the feds as well."
LOL. Nobody gets to do new rip-rap anymore. And rip-rap, whether for beavers or flood control, just moves the problem downstream.
There are only four options with beavers being beavers:
1. Let them change the environment as they would, being beavers.
2. Fence every tree and beaver-susceptible bush, keeping the woods, but losing the natural feel because of fencing.
3. Kill the beavers.
4. Move the beavers somewhere else, to become someone else's problem.
That's the history of beaver management. Everywhere. Ever.

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Posted by Montana on 04/27/2017 at 10:14 PM
Posted by Guy Who Walks The River Daily on 04/27/2017 at 9:46 PM

Re: “Wilderness advocates settle in for the long game

I'd lost track of Bill C. for the last 30+ years, since the middle 1980s, when he and I were both active in MWA, before it sold it's soul to the devil and became a "collaborator" (in the same sense as the French used the term in WWII). Bill was, and still is, a true believer and a real champion of wild places and wild things. Glad to see he's still at it, in his middle 70s, still going strong and giving it 100%. Go, Bill !

Posted by alf on 04/27/2017 at 4:33 PM

Re: “Are UM buyouts a 'win-win-win'? Not so fast.

"Montana universities are poised to absorb a $4.7 million cut for each of the next two years. They will also not receive millions in inflationary adjustments. Legislators, however, have been more willing to ante up state funds that they know will be used to reduce costs"

Welcome to Idaho. That's the idiot-ho legislature's standard approach to virtually it's entire budget. As a result, quality of education (at all levels,not just at the university level) is falling like a concrete zeppelin, tuition is becoming more and more unaffordable to more and more, infrastructure is crumbling and getting worse every year, social services are being cut back or disappearing entirely, wages are among the lowest in the country; and about the only new businesses that want to relocate to Idaho are the exploitive, extractive industries and other bottom feeders. Welcome to the Intermountain Region's new economy, courtesy in no small part to your fine repuglikan legislatures and the small minded, short-sighted people who elected them.

Posted by alf on 04/27/2017 at 3:54 PM

Re: “Pat Brook has nothing against beavers, but Hurricane Katrina forced his hand

I'm happy - and surprised - to see that city is live-trapping the animals and not using leg-hold traps, snares, or whatever else "Real Men" and the butchers at FWP and "Wildlife Services" (what a misnomer that is !) would use.

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Posted by alf on 04/27/2017 at 3:23 PM

Re: “Wilderness advocates settle in for the long game

Here is some more information.

Senator Senator Jon Tester's (D-MT) Blackfoot Clearwater Stewardship Act of 2017 represents a continued effort to shift management of National Forest System lands away from full public involvement towards local control by private collaborative groups.

Check out this analysis of Tester's bill commissioned by the Flathead-Lolo-Bitterroot Citizen Task Force and written by Mike Bader:

Also, this oped from WildWest Institute's Jake Kreilick and SGM (Ret) Mike Jarnevic, a 42-year veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Army Special Forces, may also be of interest to people:…

Finally, if people would like to see all the remaining roadless areas in Montana and the northern Rockies protected as Wilderness, they should support the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA), which was just re-introduced in both the U.S. Senate and House.

Here's more information, and a NREPA action alert, from Wilderness Watch:…

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 04/27/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Need a hug? Lauren Venaglia wants to sell you one.

Isn't it interesting that someone's opposite view is automatically considered an "attack"? I attacked no one. I just made a statement. You just proved that you, We need to show our humanity, should follow your advice to me. Perhaps you need more hugs counseling? LOL

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Posted by niam on 04/27/2017 at 1:53 PM

Re: “Need a hug? Lauren Venaglia wants to sell you one.

Fantastic article, and a great idea for a business. Human contact is essential.

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Posted by Bill Wetzel on 04/27/2017 at 1:21 PM

Re: “Need a hug? Lauren Venaglia wants to sell you one.

Niam you are such a single minded person! Bet you are a bully with ego issues. I know Lauren personally and she is a beautiful person inside and out! Your attacks are so far off. To bad you have to belittle the good Lauren is doing to make yourself feel better! GET A LIFE or better yet counseling!

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Posted by We all to to show our humanity on 04/27/2017 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Need a hug? Lauren Venaglia wants to sell you one.

Gee. They used to call this "prostitution". Feeling "loved" and "comforted" for a price.

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Posted by niam on 04/27/2017 at 11:01 AM

Re: “Wilderness advocates settle in for the long game

Forest Service plans remind me of EPA Superfund sites. They take years and then nothing ever really gets done anyways.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/27/2017 at 10:37 AM

Re: “Attorney to the cars: John Bennett fights to save the 1 percent's 1 percent

The real problem here is that with commodity and energy prices down, the state is desperate for money and and will look wherever it can for it.

Most people suffer because of this.

Meanwhile, the state has a quarter of a billion in long-term bonding debt and a surplus of about $200 million.

Please remember we don't run governments like our households. That would make too much sense.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/27/2017 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Are UM buyouts a 'win-win-win'? Not so fast.

A lot of these faculty can't retire because it'd drive their cost of insurance up. It's why so many professors 'retire' and then come back a semester later to work part-time. It saves them hundreds if not a thousand dollars or more a month in insurance premiums. Then it's just waiting to hit 65 and Medicare age.'s that going to be addressed?

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/27/2017 at 10:33 AM

Re: “Pat Brook has nothing against beavers, but Hurricane Katrina forced his hand

People have been trapping beaver in Montana for over 200 years and it never came with a "hefty price tag."

And it won't. Simple metal traps and float sticks - just like the members of the Lewis and Clark Expedition used - work just fine. Let's continue to use those, and my goodness, let's get that $14,000 cost down.

Many Missoula residents don't make that much in a year, and to hear that the city is spending so much to prevent a naturally occurring animal from doing what comes to it naturally is absurd.

Can you imagine if it cost that much back in the early-1800s? Well, Montana wouldn't be here today, it's that simple. The only industry we had for the 60 years before we became a territory was the fur industry. So please, let's get those costs down.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/27/2017 at 10:30 AM

Re: “Lost son found

A documentary has recently been released with Noah Pippin's parents telling their story:

Posted by Chickenrider on 04/25/2017 at 4:51 PM

Re: “Yep, we're still here

Kathleen Yes, we've already hired a half-time reporter to help along with a couple of new summer interns fill Kate's departing shoes for the summer, and will soon begin advertising to fill that position post-summer, all of which was our staffing plan prior to the sale.

Posted by bradtyer on 04/24/2017 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Yep, we're still here

Will the Indy be allowed to hire a reporter following Kate's (unrelated) resignation?

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Posted by Kathleen Kimble on 04/24/2017 at 10:28 AM

Re: “A note from our publisher: Challenges to quality journalism are bigger than us

what a sad day,what a sell out,I don't know why I expected more from the independent.Money buys everything,you guys included.

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Posted by ol al on 04/23/2017 at 7:41 PM

Re: “You know that Lee bought the Indy. Do you know why?

you suck

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Posted by fu on 04/22/2017 at 3:42 PM

Re: “Sanders returns to offer Quist an assist

Glad you're so upbeat and optimistic, Greg.

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Posted by alf on 04/22/2017 at 12:26 PM

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