Ms. Tompkins -- thank you.
I flew on this warbird a couple of summers ago. It was an incredible experience!
have been here for 2 lunches, 2 dinners and for a few drinks with friends. So, I feel like my experiences provide enough to express this review. Am in their neighborhood.
Clearly, They are trying hard.
Wait staff is stressed. So busy that they don't have time to be friendly or they lack confidence. They struggle with making a recommendation and seem to always need a reminder to get what you need. Even getting the check takes a long time. Owners are doubling as bus personnel and can be pretty touchy with staff.
Overpriced in every respect
With few exceptions, portions are smaller than any other higher priced restaurant in Montana. Particularly the steaks.
Interesting design. Relaxing. Good acoustics. Nice variety in seating options.
Price of booze is outrageous. Clearly subsidizing rest of operations. And, they offer nothing special unless wine is very very important to you.
They are marketing as finer dining but it really is not.
Hey kinney...I realize as a MSU Alum it is difficult being able to find your fanny with both hands ..."Engtsrom is a great guy and is paying for Dennison"s mismanagement" ...what in the heck are you smoking I need get me some of that. Engstrom has been in charge 6 years now and it has been a disaster---- stop with the blaming everybody else when does Engstrom take responsibility after he has been here ten years???
For crying out loud give us all a break.
So.....cutting Jobs...cutting funding to various departments, cutting staff/hours and the like at the library....
Where the hell did they find the money for this little operation? If Engstrom is sharing his own over-inflated salary, I would support this...
But we all know he isn't. Is this where our Alumni "gifts" go? To finance another person who will not do a job, be a drain of financial resources, and end up failing?
Does the University, and the regents and such on the board, realize that CUTTING teachers, resources, funding for research and on campus facilities, actually detracts from any desire of prospective students to come here? Do they think that prospective students will read this and the other shenanigans that has plagued this school and say "Yes, i want to give them lots of money?"
As an MSU alum I have more than enough competitive spirit to shriek with joy at anything MSU might do better than UM. That being said I just recently left a job where I worked with several hundred colleges and universities throughout the country including semi annual trips to UM over the entirety of the Engstrom Presidency and several years of Dennison. Dennison was a great guy but stayed way too long and in the end gave too much unchecked autonomy to too many. I saw UM as a speeding coaster on loose rails and it went off with all the publicity around the legally exonerated Jordan Johnson. He may be innocent in the eyes of the law and actually innocent but the manner in which the Dennison admin swept stuff under the rug with his and other cases, ignored it or worse yet didn't know it was happening has put UM into a tailspin it may not recover from. The downward trend in the pursuit of Liberal Arts degrees at a school that yes has STEM majors but isn't known for them hasn't helped. Any father with a daughter (and maybe even a son) google's UM and that Krakouer book is going to be on page one for some time even though assault is horrifically rampant on too many campuses. This was a necessary risk, at the right time to attract the best possible candidate. Engstrom is a great guy, a great leader that was handed a collapsing ivory tower of cards. The alternative theories of pay after performance are the reasons you get middle or lower tier candidates in job searches. Crady may fail, but so could anyone in this position. UM is a challenge for the next enrollment executive. He is taking a risk taking this job. A bigger one than at any similar institution. They had to invest and invest big in this position. We are at a precipice in higher ed of a bubble. Under utilized two years, ballooning 4 years and a demand for more for less will see hundreds of institutions, a smaller percentage state run, shut down in the coming decade. MSU's growth is phenomenal and against the trend and UM has a lot to offer, I've met a lot of college presidents and Engstrom is the right guy he's just swimming up a swift current and paying the price for years of neglect. I hate saying that as well because personally Dennison was a great guy as well but he stayed about 5 years too long.
Facade -- you can put all the makeup you wish on that pig (giant tourist warehouse w/kitchenettes), it'll still be a pig!
Garbage food, Anywhere USA! -- it's the trendy thing to do!
Where the hell is Missoula anyway, and do so many people want to relocate there?
The Bitterroot National Forest has seriously undermined the work and the function of the Bitterroot Restoration Committee. The BRC is supposed to develop proposals for restoration after discussion and reaching consensus. The BRC initiated a Westside proposal that was about a third the size of the final BNF project. The BNF claimed BRC support for the much larger project prior to the BRC being able to finalize their proposal, let alone reach consensus on the unfinished proposal. This subterfuge and abuse of process shows what "collaboration" means to the USFS. It is simply a charade of "finding common ground amongst traditional adversaries". The USFS either finds a group that will agree with whatever the FS wants to do, or hijack the process to do what they want to do.
The BNF has squandered any trust they might have had with local landowners and they have made moot the work done by the BRC, reducing it to a rubber stamp at best for the BNF agenda. And, since when is roadbuilding and a new bridge considered "restoration"? Calling this project "Collaborative" and "Restoration" is sheer deception and makes meaningful public discussion impossible.
Folks be tripping over our use of "hipster" as shorthand for "people who don't buy produce at the market." That's all the people who want to talk about it want to talk about.
Few of them, including The Independent, appear to give a fuck about the farmers who started this thing and are now having a harder time making money.
With the way things are going at the new Popeye's in Missoula, they may not be open for long. Orders screwed and only so-so food. I'm driving to KFC in Hamilton (Missoula store is nasty-dirty).
Thanks for the well worded and fun to read rebuttal! I got a hipster community garden plot this year with my hipster girlfriend, and we got almost all our hipster veggie starts from the farmers market. I also enjoy the variety of gluten free (yep, I'm THAT kind of hipster) baked goods, which I eat AT HOME (mostly so I can quietly stuff 6 Tandem Doughnuts in my mouth at once, sans the dry disapproving stares of the kale only crowd, but also because lingering takes up space). My biggest problem with the farmers market is that people congregate to chat in the middle of the paths that are the main way through the market. It is, in fact, possible to move to the side of the path or, ermahgerd, the amazing expanse of grass right by the river, just a few steps behind the southern line of stalls; it's not hard, people--I have a broken ankle and if I can do it, so can you, Missoula!
I don't go to the market because I simply don't like people in large crowds. But I'm glad we have the markets. I don't go to ANY of the downtown Missoula events, frankly, all for that reason. Again, I'm glad we have them. What got me most about the article though is if you're still referring to youngish people as hipsters, you're an asshole.
Many people just don't like change, and they'll let you know it.
Everyone has an opinion.
Totes. As a post stroller, non hipster, CSA member for like 7 years, I love the market for all it offers to visitors and locals. I rarely go, unless I'm feeling unusually hungry for socializing and breakfast sandwich from ninja Mike.
Steve I am honored that you served our country, I might be speaking some other language or dead if it weren't for people like you who answered the call, thank you very much from the deepest part of my heart as an American Born and raised. As far as your question on these Military rifles, I understand your point , I don't like these guns as a hunting weapon period, matter of fact I have reverted back to the old lever win 32 special while I can still see the open sights hahaha. There is a lot of folks out there , especially down south and back east that have a different view as they are on top of the racism, government , etc.. I personally can't tell them what to use as a gun or what they should buy, sort of sad we as Americans are so scared we want to be armed or have access to this style of weapon. I Knew a G. B. that came back with several guns but he was pretty privileged, I doubt most GI's could come home with a way of converting their guns to fully auto on a selector switch, thank God as I know some who were never the same person I knew before they left. Yes as an NRA member for years, an organization 200 years old or better who we all learned how to shot and handle a rifle, I can't answer you without going into depth with the Nation we once called a free country under God with our rights in stone. The old saying give them an inch they take a mile is what has divided us and caused this weapon to surface in my simple minded opinion, At one time the Democratic folks stood up for us working men and women, vets, etc. , now they want to take our guns away the same way Australia did, and I can't go along with that as an American, my Dad was a WW11 vet, they fought a terrible war as you did to, bless you and every single vet no matter what the war or political crap, Damn, you served, answered the call, I wish these younger folks would see just how proud and tough all of our fighting men and women have and still are peace be with you, give your kids a hug, and Grandkids ,thankyou for being who you are
Aside from the question of whether the logging (and the new roads and bridge necessitated by log hauling) will accomplish what the FS has in mind on this timber sale, the public process demonstrated by FS planners on the Westside project leaves no doubt about their low regard for meaningful involvement by the owners of the public forests.
While steamrolling toward their preconceived plan the Bitterroot National Forest undermined the process of the Bitterroot Restoration Committee, a "consensus-based", "collaborative" group meant to find common ground amongst "traditional adversaries" in the hopes of avoiding litigation on proposed projects. The BNF hijacked a much smaller BRC proposal in the area while it was being discussed by the BRC and before the smaller (about 1/3 the size) proposal could be finalized, let alone find consensus. The work of the BRC was made moot; "collaboration" was shown to be a ruse; and the purpose of "collaboration" was negated. The name of the timber sale is loaded with rhetorical disinformation. It is called, the Westside Collaborative Restoration project. It is "westside" but not "collaborative" or "restoration". Those words are added by the FS in order to access pots of taxpayer money and shortcut public process available for logging timber sales that qualify as such. This timber sale does not. The BRC has become simply a discussion group loaded in the timber industry and FS favor used to greenwash FS projects. The FS continues to bastardize the English language, making George Orwell look like he lacked imagination in double-speak.
The big problem is the Missoulians content. Any day of the week you'll find the strangest stories on their site, most having nothing to do with Missoula. Lots of fluff, little in the way of hard-hitting news.
Well Steve, some shop owners during the Los Angeles riot precipitated by the police beating of Rodney King protected their businesses from being burned by rampant rioters with AR-type firearms - so that's one reason to have one. Also, the AR-16 has been called the militia weapon of our time - and we have the Second Amendment right to own and carry guns. During civil unrest, the AR-16 (or M-16) or a similar weapon may be required to defend oneself and his home. So don't fret too much over the issue.
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