finally found part of the segment. I wish they had shown it in unedited. But what was interesting was the journey, the research on other sights/ Such as Mr. Redom of sonofwashington.com saying the Native people aren't the ones keeping this issue alive but the media. My question is why did the football team change its name from the braves to Redskins in the 1dt place? I also want to find the song that was mentioned by the redskins fan that they chant, I doubt this will go away and I doubt anything will be done unless we get NCAAP involved. Do they help Indians? Would that be considered racist to wonder if they would/wouldn't?
My final thought is If everyone else is wondering why should anyone care and that its no big deal and everyone has good nostalgic memories of watching the games with friends and family alike. Well, so do Arian Nations, KKK, Nazis and every other group that discriminate, bullies, terrorizes anyone. Yep,They have good memories if times before when "those people" weren't allowed rights. Yep good times and they too wondered what is the big deal. Native Americans are the forgotten people. That is a big deal, I think
This is a great article- as a non-Native, it deeply saddens me that you and any other Native would continue to encounter prejudice- thank you for your perseverance and allowing for further discussion on this important issue
What happened to the behind the scenes (I'll cut you) video
yeah it is comedy and that should give those people the first clue that they are comical. But the use of the name implies they are wearing the skins of our ancestors and thus the disrespect. Wearing those skins supposedly makes them impervious to the fact that they are elitetest and racist. Is being racist a cool thing, if it is directeded toward the Native Americans that occupied these lands? Who will stand up for those that have been oppressed the longest on this land? We have lost our lands. Many of us have lost our cultures and languages. Just how much more can be taken away? When people get into the these stadiums to root for their favorite team they are paying homage to their corporate gods the gods of rich, greedy, and unaware. A confused people who want to hang on to some sort of culture that will never belong to them. The Washington Moniker is not a culture of Native People. It is disgraceful and disrespectful to where the Reds**n colors without me not seeing the butchered remains of my Ancestors.
I believe that the Independent should run a local expose on this discussion and should expand out to reach different demographics.
What are the feelings from our local MT, Reservations?
What does the Football Fan Bar crowd think about this matter?
how about our locals and our Native American youth?
I think its good to ask:
"what is entitlement?" "What is White Entitlement?" "Is there cultural imbalance?"
"who invented RACE & RACISM and why? What purpose did RACISM serve?"
"Is racism free speech or is it verbal assault?"
"In what ways are "WHITES" Oppressed vs NATIVE AMERICANS?" "
WHICH LIVE ON RESERVATIONS AND WHY?"
"What SOCIAL NORMS ARE WHITES BEING OPPRESSED BY?"
"IS COMPARING THE OPPRESSION OF "WHITES", EQUAL TO THE OPPRESSION OF NATIVE AMERICANS?"
"IF SO, HOW?"
"AND IF NOT WHY?"
ARE "WHITES" GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATIONS OR ADVANTAGES IN VOTING? EDUCATION? OR BUSINESS?
LETS ASK THE REAL QUESTIONS PEOPLE...
I find it so bizarre that so many people claim to have Native American blood or ancestry and yet they're racist. The National Geographic DNA project pretty much proved that most people who claim to have Native American ancestry do not. And while DNA can't 100% disprove Native ancenstry, you'd think they're be a lot more positive hits. On the other hand, if you define America as South and North American, you will find many people with Native roots.
"When White Women Cry: How White Women's Tears Oppress Women of Color" as one person quoted above, is a good example of why liberals have their heads up their own butts. white people can't even cry without somehow oppressing someone, somewhere.
everyone in the comments section who learned about "white privilege" in college and is now super excited to use this label on something in real life: you are racist.
you have drunk football fans of varying demographics, and as usual, it's the liberal war on white people worldview that prevails. do you realize that the majority of both white and black "appearing" Americans have some native ancestry? to varying degrees? especially in this part of the United States? do some research if you don't believe this.
i think the writer of this article knew good and well all along that he was going to be instigating fights with sports fans over a silly name. so i don't have much sympathy for him. i am not certain that drunk football fans knew exactly what he was trying to do, only that he was dressed strangely and being followed around by a camera crew, which is enough to make anyone annoyed.
when he begins comparing himself to the woman who started crying, is when I realized this article was going to go south... the two situations were not the same. this article really proves nothing except that the author was purposely trolling football fans, for personal attention apparently, as he does not mention his own particular stance on this issue. he seems to enjoy all the attention he got over it though
Love this article. The reaction to it is the perfect illustration of how people think they have a right to bigotry.
Seriously, is a SPORTS Team name that important to you that you would rather keep that stupid name when it is so offensive?
Those of you who defend the name Redskins so vehemently are mean-spirited and stupid.
Shame on you.
I just love the silly people who try to use the first amendment to defend the use of offensive language and their right to use it. Yes, the 1st amend. protects your right to say it but it also protects my right to point out what a moron you are for using said language. Kinda like the 1st protecting your religion. That doesn't mean you have the right to make me respect your religious views. Just the right to express them. I still have the right to laugh at you for those beliefs. And "free market" principles protects my right to not buy your product if you offend me, not just your right to sell whatever you want. So, go ahead, call yourself redskins, just don't get all defensive when I call you foreskins.
Richard Axtell, I am ashamed of your attitude. I'm non-native, but have a grandson who is. Everything you said is true, but why settle for the truth? Change the truth. Football is not worth the trouble, but I'm in the minority. People are rabid about football and their mascots. Redskins is a pejorative term and has long outlived its acceptance. Fight the fight! Change the truth!
Just like the one commenter said...if you don't like the team...don't watch them....many natives support name...many natives use redskins as their own mascot...so many natives that support changing it will tell you the natives that don't support it are uneducated....horrible excuse....many that support are but educated as you...realize lots of people don't agree with you on many things...stay away from things you yourself don't support...problem solved
Go Redskins! Follow the money on this controversy! If you believe this is a slur you are sadly mistaken!
You hit the nail on the head when you said "she knew she was wrong." I don't understand why people are so full of pride that they cannot admit they are wrong and apologize. There is no harm in that. Being white, she never really understood the viewpoint of the Native American but when confronted with it, she could have said, "wow, I am sorry, I had no idea how hurtful that was" and there would have been absolutely no harm in that. But the thing is, you have to change when you admit to something like that so maybe that is what scares them. No more status quo. I also find it funny how many people that I consider white, with blond hair, fair skin, and eyes blue, will tell me about their Indian heritage, and for some reason it always is Cherokee. I wonder what is up with that. I am white myself, red haired, and very fair and my father, who was olive skinned (more Mediterranean appearance than Native American) always insisted we have Indian blood. I actually spent years on my family genealogy and I have yet to find that Indian ancestor I heard so much about. Maybe it is guilt that drives them to want to claim being Native American.
Screw the Redskins and the Natives, they all need to disappear.
I wonder if Mr. Pensoneau attacks Native Americans who wear Redskins jackets, etc.? I live in Great Falls and there are a lot of Native Americans who are fans of the team and wear shirts and stuff. Better to support a team with a Native mascot, than the Irish, right? Does he go around calling them traitors? Does he disown them?
As for the show, any time on any topic if one side uses professional activists who know and plan for a face off vs. people off the street, the people off the street are going to lose.
I watched Jon Stewart and was curious why Jon was so passionate about showing the piece despite the pushback. I am always shocked when reading about or watching Americans consistently show hate towards so many, it's just ugly. Immigrant children, our President, blacks, atheists, LBGT, people of different political persuasions, the poor and disenfranchised, homeless - we are a deeply divided country. We have those who are tolerant and compassionate and those who are afraid of anyone different than themselves. I think of the latter as cowards, intolerant and uninformed. We are all simply human beings.
I was born Irish and Cherokee on one side and Scottish and Creek on the other. Even though my southern family lived close to the land it was never discussed much because in the last century it was better to be from another ethnic group than Native American. However, many of the gifts and values from the traditional ways were part of my heritage. For instance, never judge a person by their skin color but only.
It took me until I was older to learn about the ancestral traditions of my heritage and I have never turned back. The things I have learned since then, teach me I must live with acceptance, and unconditional love for all that is created. The Weeping Woman and Mean Girl have not come to understand that we are all in this together and continue to pursue the old paradigm of threat or victimhood which is all based in fear. I am sorry for the rabidity of the "fans" but they do not understand how words shouted from the bleachers can step on the hearts of others. Perhaps, if we all continue to bring the attention to the front finally enough Good Hearts will say enough.
Word. I just watched that episode on line tonight and, trolling Facebook after, ran across this article. Sheds a LOT of light on the comments Jon made just before the segment. I live on the west coast. Have never been to a pro football game let alone one in D.C. The shit that you describe happening to you guys at the tailgate is frankly, just... unbelievable. Not that I don't believe you but that I just can't even wrap my brain around people, in the fucking year 2014, acting like that. It defies any sort of reason. As if you three were some sort of threat to... to what, I can't even imagine. A coarsely ignorant, self absorbed and wholly unsympathetic of the plights of others lifestyle? I also have to wonder how offended those people would be if there were a major market sport franchise, made up of pretty much all non white athletes, that had a cartoony hillbilly for a mascot and was called the Carolina Crackers or the Virginia Hayseeds? My guess is that shit would get shut down pretty fucking quick. Good work, congratulations on the gig(!), keep your head up and know that not all of us (by a damn sight) are such fuckin idiots.
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