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Re: “Air quality

Left unmentioned (intentionally ?) in the first paragraph was the paper mill at Frenchtown. I remember the stench of that mill being far more offensive than any wood smoke or dust from sanding or unpaved streets when I lived in Missoula in the 70s.

Posted by alf on 12/27/2014 at 12:36 PM

Re: “2014

Well done !

Although VIEWFINDER doesn't get many comments, that doesn't mean your images aren't appreciated.

Posted by alf on 12/27/2014 at 12:12 PM

Re: “2014

That's a lot of great pictures Cathrine. Thanks for your work documenting Missoula, your efforts are appreciated!

Posted by Chad Harder on 12/24/2014 at 4:39 PM

Re: “News in review

I wonder if you extreme Homophobes aren't so unsure of your own sexual orientation that you try to mask and counter it with your chest beating machisimo.

Like all reactionaries, you're on the wrong side of history.

"not allow anyone to voice any opinion" that runs counter to your own is exactly what you right wing extremists and religious crazies are guilty of, but are too blind and arrogant to see your own shortcomings

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Posted by alf on 12/24/2014 at 12:50 PM

Re: “News in review

Your paragraph re: Homosexual marriage was totally one sided. You did not quote one person who believes in Biblical marriage. This is typical of the homosexual agenda, not allow anyone to voice any opinion that does not support the sexual deviancy of homosexuals.

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Posted by Donald Spitz on 12/24/2014 at 6:46 AM

Re: “Safe at home

Great read!

Posted by Curt Synness on 12/24/2014 at 12:32 AM

Re: “Cost of compromise

I don't know what to call them. The first word that came into my mind was "Reptiles", but that's too good for them : It'd be an unnecessary and gratuitous insult to rattlesnakes.

Posted by alf on 12/20/2014 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Cost of compromise

Thanks to the Indy for digging a little deeper and actually getting people like Daines and Tester on record about their secret public lands horse-trading. No wonder everyone is fed up with Congress.

I love the Rocky Mountain Front too. I hunt, fish and hike up there with my wife and family, and also help a local ranch-owner with some preservation projects of historic cabins.

However, I’d encourage people who care about public lands to look at any very small gains for the Rocky Mountain Front, or the North Fork (which really isn't 'protected' as public lands logging, grazing, motorized recreation and even existing mining and drilling leases will continue in that part of the Flathead National Forest) in the context of what this 449 page long list of Public Lands Rider attached to the Defense Bill actually means for America’s public lands legacy and our future management of public lands.

Here’s some context and substance: http://bit.ly/1zaaQFp

Overall the NDAA package of public lands riders will mean more taxpayer-subsidized pubic lands grazing, mining, fracking, and oil and gas development, all with less public input, less protection for wildlife species and less science-based management.

As this article points out, one of the NDAA public lands riders gave away public lands in Arizona (sacred to the Apache, including burial groups) to a foreign mining corporation (that also co-owns a uranium mine with Iran) to build one of the world's largest copper mines. In Nevada, Senator Reid managed to giveaway public lands for mining. In total, the NDAA Riders gave away 110,000 acres of public lands for mining and logging.

Another NDAA rider gave away 70,000 acres of biologically significant old-growth forests on the Tongass National Forest to a private timber corporation in Alaska.

In Montana, with no public notice or meetings, Senator Tester and Rep Daines decided to release currently protected Wilderness Study Areas for development in order to get these very small protections for the Rocky Mountain Front.

Tester and Daines also threw some Montana ranching families under the bus by giving Great Northern Properties 112 million tons of coal, which is equivalent to 3 years worth of all coal currently mined in Montana. That means more Coal Trains for China through dozens of Montana communities, including Missoula. Read about this heartbreaking giveaway here: http://bit.ly/1AhsYvM

For some Wilderness perspective, the bill protects only 1% of the 6,397,000 of unprotected Wilderness-eligible roadless acres in Montana, and that would be this 67,000 acres in the RMFHA. Nationally, these riders protect just 0.2% of unprotected Wilderness-eligible acres. This is no way to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Wilderness Act or preserve America’s Wilderness legacy for wildlife and future generations.

Another Public Lands Rider not mentioned in this Indy article, but of tremendous significance to Montana, is the so-called "Grazing Improvement Act" – which has also been touted by Daines and Tester as a great ‘victory’ while groups like the Montana Wilderness Association remains 100% silent, only – it seems – capable of cheerleading because the politicians gave them some small Wilderness crumbs.

This public lands grazing rider now means the automatic renewal of expiring livestock grazing permits on public lands, even if these permits are causing the decline of greater sage grouse, desert tortoise or other sensitive wildlife species, or even if public lands grazing is ruining riparian areas and watersheds (which there are plenty of examples of both in Montana and throughout the West).

These public lands grazing permits also must be automatically renewed even before the completion of any NEPA environmental analysis or public input process. So the Cliven Bundy's of the world – and other welfare-ranchers who pay pennies on the dollar to graze their private livestock on our public lands – won big with this part of the public lands rider package.

This “Grazing Improvement Act” rider alone impacts tens of millions of acres public lands in Montana, and close to 1/4 BILLION acres of public lands throughout the western U.S.

Keep in mind that anything "good" in the 449 page long public lands rider package came at a tremendous cost to America’s entire public lands legacy, as well as a huge cost to U.S. taxpayers, who will be called upon to sacrifice more so King Coal and Big Oil can continue to reap huge profits exploiting America’s public lands.

If that’s "historic" and cause for “celebration” (and groups like the Montana Wilderness Association remain silent about all these tremendous public lands trade-offs) just what will Tester, Daines and the GOP controlled House and Senate cook-up and trade away in the next session of Congress with this new post-election ‘spirit of bipartisanship’ that has miraculously descended upon Washington DC?

If Rep Daines and the GOP were already able to extract such incredible concessions (and secret giveaways of public lands) from Senator Tester and the Democrats – with the Dems still in control of the Senate – just what parts of America’s public lands legacy do you think Senator Tester and the Dems will be willing to completely give away once 2015 rolls around, with the GOP in charge of both the House and the Senate?

Make no mistake: America’s public lands legacy is under siege, and it’s coming from both the R’s and the D’s, and being aided and abetted by multi-million dollar groups like Montana Wilderness Association who cheerlead over crumbs, while remaining 100% silent over the tremendous public lands giveaways.

Montanans, and America's entire Public Lands system and legacy, deserve so much more.

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Posted by Matthew Koehler on 12/19/2014 at 11:28 AM

Re: “Spirits of the season

That was hilarious, and I'm not just saying that because I pity you. Touch of the Jack Handey's about it.

Also, if this is Sir Nigel, I wouldn't be opposed to hearing this as a one man performance.

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Posted by More like breakfast of chumpions on 12/19/2014 at 9:25 AM

Re: “Cost of compromise

So anybody know how northern Idaho fared in this porkfest?? Were we just gnawed on or chewed right up?

Posted by Liz Codoni on 12/18/2014 at 11:50 PM

Re: “Cost of compromise

When will "We the People" communicate to our congressmen the fact that allowing non-pertinent amendments to legislation is absolutely corrupt?

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Posted by Edd Blackler on 12/18/2014 at 7:44 PM

Re: “Cost of compromise

This is how legislation is done, now. Do nothing for the first 23 months of the congressional session and then dump it all into a big garbage can full of provisions.

"...and the choice is you take a look at the package and say, 'Does it move forward?' Now we could have gone out and had public hearings on this and talked about it and the window of opportunity would have been over with by the time we got done."

This statement completely confirms and underscores that the goal is not to pass good laws, but to pass something, anything, so that it appears these incompetent, overpaid hacks are doing something for their salaries. JANINE BLAELOCH, Western Lands Project

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Posted by Blaeloch on 12/18/2014 at 2:08 PM

Re: “Cost of compromise

What a shameful way to make law. We need to make the US safe for democracy. If this is the answer to gridlock and low popularity ratings in Congress they don't get what the problem is about.
Santa Tester just gave the good little boys and girls a shiny bauble, and loaded the bad boys with more publicly owned coal (and copper) than they can cash in on before the planet fries.
This is the expected result of supposed-conservation groups and their leaders signing off on other terrible bills with bad policy in the last several years. The conscience-free politicians can just take for granted there will be no blowback from MWA, TWS, TU or NWF because those groups have already sold their souls for a pittance.
Tester is a master at cloaked night riders. He has had a hand in the only two legislated overrides of the Endangered Species Act. Daines is certainly no better, except that what you see is what you get, no pretenses.
It looks like the beginning (?) of the last big fire sale for slabs of pork on the only liveable planet within reach. Get it while you can.

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Posted by Larry Campbell on 12/18/2014 at 11:50 AM

Re: “Translating tragedy

GUILTY! Justice is served

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Posted by ChuckStonz on 12/17/2014 at 2:21 PM

Re: “Translating tragedy

Saltine: I'd say "A Clockwork Orange" was as much a warning as it was a work of fiction (much as Orwell's "1984" was.)
Anyway, once again this discussion is moot; THERE'S NO FREAKING WAY Ellie Hill's ban on self-defense in your own home is going to fly in the state of Montana... although sadly something similar might be established via local ordinance here in Zoo-Town (never did a city have a more apt nickname.)
Oh and... I apologize for the name-calling ("sheeple".) That's typical LIBERAL behavior... along with sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "LALALALALA" whenever you're confronted with logic and common sense.

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Posted by Chumley on 12/15/2014 at 3:04 PM

Re: “Translating tragedy

Chumley: "A Clockwork Orange" is a work of fiction, as is your argument. Also, using the word "sheeple" automatically disqualifies you from being taken seriously.

A man shot an unarmed teenager in his garage. Dede made a mistake and so did Kaarma. Dede paid with his life; it's time for Kaarma to face the consequences, based on the evidence and not "what if" scenarios.

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Posted by saltine on 12/15/2014 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Translating tragedy

Just a question here.
I see a lot of sheeple here bleating for repeal of the "Castle Doctrine" law. Do you think that if you encounter a burglar in your home and he, say, pulls a knife... that you should take whatever "retreat" option you have (including smashing out a window and crawling through broken glass to escape) before shooting the bastard? Or that you should lock yourself in the bathroom (while hoping to hell the intruder doesn't find your wife/daughter?) Do you want emboldened, state-protected criminals invading occupied homes (and beating/robbing the occupants) on a frequent basis, like they do in England? Sounds like a bunch of you have watched "A Clockwork Orange" and wished you could live in it for real.
Fortunately, you WON'T get the Castle Doctrine repealed; Missoula (and environs) is a liberal zit on an otherwise beautiful conservative face (the great state of Montana.)
Oh and... call me an idiot if you like! Disapproval from the contemptible (i.e., statist liberals) is almost as good as kudos from the admirable.

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Posted by Chumley on 12/15/2014 at 1:29 PM

Re: “Translating tragedy

you have to have a 100 % unanimous vote near as I know having been on jury duty a few times. I don't see any way that will happen, maybe a hung jury,but I doubt that too as the facts so far point to a robbery gone bad, how visible was this burglar to the shooter, did he have a hand in his pocket, etc. let's see how it all comes out, then the 2 far sides can bitch about how the outcome "should" of been instead of offering a prayer for this young man

Posted by apache on 12/15/2014 at 10:37 AM

Re: “Translating tragedy

The fact that he killed the young man speaks loudly of his intentions. He committed the more serious crime.

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Posted by Tom Cloud on 12/15/2014 at 7:45 AM

Re: “Health care

One question that wasn't answered at the public forum is why the University of Montana Foundation will be given $500,000 on the day of closing, if the sale is approved. Not one of the panel members would touch that question...makes you wonder why. Are they hiding something they were hoping the public wouldn't find out about. And how can the same attorney for CMC, who is also legal counsel for the UM Foundation, be involved in this transaction. Just seems like a conflict of interest.

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Posted by Concerned on 12/14/2014 at 10:17 PM

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