absolutely a ridiculous ordinance/law babble , what ever you want to call it. It does nothing but take away a law abiding citizens rights, and on top of that, a person could just go outside the city limits and the sale is legal, does that make sense. If it does to you your not seeing the whole picture, the money and time spent to defend such a dumb law, don't they have anything else to do down there at city hall besides harass Montana folks??
Well they didn't let the meat go to waste in Leisure Park when they left the bones and the head...POACHERS FOR SURE!!!!!!!!!!
President Engstrom is being asked to leave.....Yes.....engstrom is done as of 12/31/16...WoooHooo.
Happy U of M employee!!!
Just to put a point on it, the lead FS official at the time of the supposed Westside project "collaboration" with the local homeowners and the Bitterroot Restoration Committee said after the timber sale was OK'd, The Bitterroot Restoration Committee actually works on a consensus basis. And have to admit my observation would be on this particular project, as well as on certain other issues I dont believe that theyve met that consensus at this point in time.
One of the main complaints in the ongoing litigation, as well as in the 17 citizen Objections, is the lack of "collaboration". The Objections were dismissed out of hand It seems certain FS officials confirm that claim, now that the NEPA process is over.
The reason this is important, and the way to understand the FS rush to dismiss the failure to genuinely collaborate, is that "collaboration" is required by law to take the analysis shortcuts they took as well as to access the pots of taxpayer money they are using to implement the timber sale. The self-acknowledged failure to legitimately collaborate makes this timber sale and the use of special tax funding illegitimate/illegal.
It is worth noting that one of the fundamental purposes of the clamor for "collaboration" is to give extra weight to local opinions on forest management. The fact that so many of the Objections were from the most local citizens, local homeowners, shows that the concept is not working in practice. Nor should it, in my opinion. Citizens all across the US own that land equally. We locals already earn a bonus by being able to enjoy it on a daily basis. What would you think if residents of Manhattan agreed to sell off parts of the Statue of Liberty to help their local economy. This policy would create a fire sale of public assets by local interests for their own local benefit, which is what we see with our public forests.
I prefer the NEPA process, which gives all Americans an equal voice in commenting on projects that effect their equally owned public land heritage, even if they can't travel hundreds or thousands of miles to attend meetings in Hamilton, Montana. I don't want to have to go to NY to defend the Statue of Liberty from being sold off as trinkets.
Thanks to the Missoula Indy for continued coverage of this issue.
For whatever it's worth, here's more information about what Ryan Domsalla, West Fork District Ranger of the Bitterroot National Forest, said at the Western Governors National Forest and Rangeland Management Initiative meeting in Missoula on September 21, 2016 about the Westside Collaborative Vegetation Project, collaboration and the Bitterroot Restoration Committee.
"This [the Westside Collaborative Vegetation Project] was one of the governors Forests in Focus Initiative Projects. We received about $136,900 for this. That particular (state) money was able to expedite the project as well as make it a priority for the Bitterroot National Forest..The expedited nature of the project. definitely curtailed the time that we had to do some collaboration with some adjacent landowners as well as with some of our stakeholders and user groups. You know, like I said, it didnt allow us a lot of time to establish that trust, that communication that is necessary for truly honest and open collaboration. Certainly we worked with the State of Montana DNRC to move forward with much of the project prior to actually making the decision, which I think expedited things. But honest and truly I think we can do better there.
The Bitterroot Restoration Committee actually works on a census basis. And have to admit my observation would be on this particular project, as well as on certain other issues I dont believe that theyve met that consensus at this point in time.
- Ryan Domsalla, West Fork District Ranger of the Bitterroot National Forest
Anyone can verify these official statements from a Bitterroot National Forest official by watching the actual panel from the WGA meeting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtySlCka6l…
It should also be pointed out that apparently Wayne Hedman, chair of the Bitterroot Restoration Committee, had prevented a fellow Bitterroot Restoration Committee member from sharing this video and Ranger Ryan Domsallas comments with the rest of the Bitterroot Restoration Committee members earlier this fall. Why do you suppose that would be?
I believe most people have enough intelligence to see through the alt right propaganda in the first 4 comments here. They are obviously posted by the same group of a-holes that this article is about. The air of the 3rd and 4th comments suggest that they are made by white bigot/s to stir anger in other white people, inspire a defense. I would not normally find it necessary to post the obvious, but some sort of rationalism is evidently not prevailing here and now. Maybe common sense and decency among fellow Americans is being underrepresented. As a Montanan, I'd just assume this secular group of MT "alt right" stay here and crawl back in their little hole, they can have it, that's why this is America and Montana. Richard Spencer stays quiet behind his think tank here, because he knows that Montanans would be quick to put him and his cohorts in their place, if they were to get too cocky. He is bordered by two of Montana's largest Indian Reservations, and the majority of Montanans are staunch against racism. We still have WWII veterans, and we haven't forgot those who died standing up against the Nazis in Europe. White Nationalists will never be welcome among the majority, here or anywhere.
I am offended by this article, mainly the title. Nine Inch Nails never hurt anyone.
Omg I can't believe this SICK white man wants a homeland for his people!! How DISGUSTING!
White people are evil and need to have their countries flooded with Mexicans, Africans, and Arabs. It'll be a beautiful day when the white race is finally extinct.
It is disgusting to conceive of a future in which whites have anything, whether in America or Europe. We must become a global nation composed of every race and ethnicity (as long as whites are replaced and blended out) which passionately fights for the eternal existence of the state of Israel.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.
Thankfully the Montana Cannabis Industry Association has filed legal action in order to remedy this Scriveners error. This will hopefully correct the clerical error before the initiative is codified into law. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the MTCIA for ask they have done throughout the years to ensure safe, legal access for the sick and needy of Montana.
Here's a view of the original survey question, which appeared at the Missoulian website when I tried to read an article about Yellowstone National Park.
I would be eternally grateful if someone could provide me with the contact information for this group.. My family has been engaged in an epic battle with the CPS here in Hamilton. They removed my children based on a lie and every lawyer we get appointed keeps telling us that it's no big deal that the CPS can lie and there is nothing we can do about it.. They have had my children for 10 months based on a lie and I have the proof so the CPS sent a step father stipulations thing to my husband's lawyer (wich she is encouraging him to sign) and basically it's going to guarantee that they get to keep my children. I see no way out of this. I've never been arrested nor in jail. No drug charges or rehab. And I was not even in the same town when my husband hit my child. One smack, one bruise to the face it's not like he lost control and beat him over and over. My husband begged for classes or something from the Cps in order to be able to see the kids again and CPS refused. But upon us then deciding to fix the family ourselves since CPS wouldn't help they came and removed my kids so fast I didn't even get to say goodbye to my older children as they took them straight from school. Please help us. Mik_2004@hotmail.com
im sorry if this really happened but i thought i got raped on time but it turns out i gave concent well drunk at a collage party and now im 21 and live in missoula and have a amazing time
i may be a female but some girls do this because they regret the fact the had sex with the guy or they have a boyfriend and they cheated i know its not right to defend the males but its true sometimes it the girl just making a big lie
Pfff! Mr.Logic is an exquisite example of a DAMN FOOL!! Absolutely disgusting.
Thank you for this thoughtful and informational piece! I appreciate hearing about comfort foods from around our rock.
My daughter and I (and her three kids) rented from PPM for four years, after having already rented the same place for four years previous to that time, from Grizzly Property, with whom we had developed a good, trusting relationship.
PPM treated us like trash, even though we paid our rent on time and were good tenants. We also experienced the monthly threat of extra charges which were unwarranted and unreasonable, though we managed to stay a step ahead of PPM throughout this time. After a full eight-year tenancy, they made demands that were the icing on the cake for us and we decided to leave there and rent from our favorite management company. PPM sent us a bill, stating that they were keeping our entire deposit AND charging us $1500.00 extra, including the costs of carpet cleaning (they are required to REPLACE the carpet after 5 year tenancy) and repainting. So, in effect, we are being told that we have to pay for something that they're required to do at their expense, not ours. This was in June of this year, and they turned us over to collections when we didn't pay it. My advice to anyone who wants to rent in this town is to steer clear of these tools. They'll screw you over.
Professional Property Management is one of the worst. I rented from them for several years. One time I was sent a letter telling me that if I didn't remove my outside flower pots in 5 days they would be removed for me and I would be charged. This was around the end of October.
One time they did a routine walkthrough of my apartment. One smoke detector didn't have a battery in it. They then replaced that battery and tried to charge me $90 for this. I went down to the office and after arguing with the office girl for a bit she went to the boss, talked for 5 minutes, and the bill was brought down to $45.
Why that decision was made, I have no idea. I guess it's standard policy to cut bills by 50% if someone argues.
Personally, I believe there is no policy other than ripping off the renter. The group that lobbies on behalf of the rental industry has no problems with this.
Rental insurance is just a racket. There's no need for it, but like Obamacare, it's forced upon us low-income people. No consideration is given to how we pay it. PPM has their own scam where they offer rental insurance at about 20% above market rates. I feel sorry for people that sign up for it.
Check out PPM on Google. Look at all the 1-star reviews they have, reviews that go back for years.
This company cares about no one but itself. I consider them evil, myself, and I urge Missoula renters to bypass them.
Hopefully they'll go out of business one day.
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