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Re: “Missoula

For the same reasons all whores, with their pimps watching, parrot why they "love" their pimps.

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Posted by niam on 04/17/2015 at 12:39 PM

Re: “Worth keeping

Why wasn't Steve daines specifically called out in this article for supporting this sell off vote.
the billings gazette editorial board did and said he flip flopped on his promises to their editorial board ( and every state paper editorial board) in 2014 when trying to get elected to the senate. These editorial boards accepted his lies that he would do nothing to sell off or transfer public lands and that he would do what the people of Montana wanted ignoring that he had already voted twice to do this while in the house. Steve daines lied on this subject during the 2014 debates, to every major newspaper editorial board in this state and ignored what the majority of Montanans supported and chose again to do what he did in the house.i.e. tell Montanans one thing and then support the Republican ideology with his vote and ignore what Montanans wanted. Make no mistake, Daines is a key figure in this public lands subject and papers need to hold him accountable to keep voters informed and hopefully make him a one term senator.

Posted by bela on 04/17/2015 at 10:28 AM

Re: “Not all right

As President of the Public Land and Water Access Association I have experienced politics in Montana for many years. Don't fool yourself about which party is responsible for trying to privatize our water and wildlife. It's the G.O.P.
One example is the "Dirty Ditch Bill" that would have gutted Montana's Stream Access Law. We tracked it during the 2011 session.
We follow it closely because PLWA had spent over $100,000 protecting Stream access on the Ruby River alone. Suddenly, here is a bill in the legislature that if passed would have undone every thing we had worked for. Sportsmen finally showed up in force to kill the bill in a Senate Committee.
My point is this: Of the 57 votes that moved this bill thru the House, 56 were from Republicans. The same ratio is present in many other pieces of legislation including Habitat Montana and road closures.
John Gibson

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Posted by John Gibson on 04/17/2015 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Geared up for a fight

Actually the FS is catering to the laws of the land. I don't know anybody who does not like mountain bikes. Maybe there's some horses startled on the trail by silent oncoming mountain bikes that don't like them. It's not that biking is bad; it's just that mountain bikes are not appropriate everywhere.
What's at stake are our few remaining unprotected wildlands, and they aint makin any more of em. Meanwhile there are a great many places to ride bikes.
It appears that every type of recreation has people who will not forego demanding a piece of the wildland pie for their personal use. The planet is already nearly totally overwhelmed by the I, I, me, me, mine mentality. Multiply and subdue the earth is making great headway. Maybe a bit of humility and generosity of spirit will catch on in time to allow wild nature to survive the wreck-creation onslaught. Or maybe not...

Posted by Larry Campbell on 04/17/2015 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Not all right

You can say that again, Greg/derp.

Posted by opus on 04/17/2015 at 3:39 AM

Re: “Missoula

Coincidentally, I wrote a list of my favorite things about Missoula last week -- as I am returning home after ten months away ...

In 2003, I moved to Montana for grad school and the cool area code (406!). When I told people that I was headed to Missoula, the reaction was an almost uniform "Oh I love that town!". If I asked why, I got "It's the people!" That cryptic phrase just made me more curious. What about the people?!
This past year I've traveled a lot — both in the US and abroad — and although I've met warmhearted folks everywhere, and been fascinated, educated, shocked, concerned and charmed by the world — the journey has only made me appreciate Missoula, and the folks who live here, more. Urban planners say that the health of a city is tied to identity — "a sense of place"— a feeling of belonging to a specific, one-of-a-kind community. Missoula has many special qualities. (Sometimes I think our license plates should say "IT'S SO MISSOULA!") Here is my top 20 list of favorite things about Missoula. What are yours?

1. Lolo Peak. It stands like a guardian over the valley — Lolo inspires me to get up and get outside and climb to greater heights. The beautiful presence of the mountain, and the winter wonderland that it provides, energizes life in Missoula.
2. A million non-profits. Forbes Magazine says Missoula has more non-profits per person than anywhere else in the country. Maybe that's why every social event in town is a fundraiser?! How good it is to live in a place where people both care and pitch in.
3. Almost as many parades as pubs. The Day of the Dead is my favorite — it's quintessential Missoula: wild, quirky, colorful, creative and beautiful. Everyone welcome — and African dancing and fire spinning afterward!
4. Local food fetishists. With the help of our expansive farmer's markets, which make saturdays and wednesdays a delicious hobnobbing celebration, Missoula food culture is about local, sustainable, self-reliance, and the gourmet results from our selection of fresh veggies, cheeses, bison, cattle and chickens, our local wine, cherries and apples and raspberries, wild mushrooms and huckleberries, craft beer and original ice cream flavors.
5. The bar at Snowbowl. Homemade soups and pizzas and Bloody Marys after a day on snow. Seeing folks you know with their flushed-faced afterglow. The giant fireplace. The fact that the day costs $40 or less, instead of $100. Hey, that sounds like all the downhill spots around Missoula!
6. The % of biologists per capita. Want to know what the genus of that tree is, those birds, the stats on spring run-off, or that animal track in the snow? No problem, ask the person standing next to you — from my personal experience there is a 1 in 5 chance they are a graduate of the University of Montana's Environmental Studies Program (one of the first in the country), a student in the Forestry Department, or someone getting their PHD in Biological Sciences.
7. Guys on skateboards being pulled by their dogs. Alternately: the intrepid Clark Fork River surfers.
8. The 'so-called' parking tickets. After a week in Los Angeles (and the $73 tickets), Missoula's system of a warning, then a $5 ticket, and then $10 if you do it again etc. is so reasonable! — Sending little heart icons in my mind to the meter maids right now.
9. The energy of this place — curious, world-traveled, active, volunteer-centric, dynamic, and supportive of audacious athletic and creative pursuits. A few of my favorite enterprises that bring the community together: The Top Hat, The Hive, the ZACC, the Wilma, Headwaters Dance, the MAM, the Made Fair, the free concerts, The Co-op, and the food trucks.
10. It's not about stuff. It's about experience. Traveling around the U.S. I found that places where the culture didn't revolve around "stuff" were few and far between. In Missoula how much money you have does not factor into whether or not people treat you with respect.
11. How many CSA's are there again? Did you know that Garden City Harvest oversees ten community CSA gardens — including the beautiful Peas Farm, and a number of educational projects for Missoula? And then there are many smaller CSA ventures — who knows how many we actually have!
12. Ice skating under the moon in Rattlesnake park. So quiet, so cold, so fresh.
13. Big Sky Documentary Film Festival. For ten days, in the middle of February, Missoula is the most erudite spot on the planet. The always-impressive roster of documentaries, workshops and industry insiders brings fascinating cultural energy to Missoula's downtown and warms us up in the middle of winter.
14. The trails —for hiking and biking and cross-country skiing, and running and camping and strolling, and exploring and breathing fresh air and finding beauty everywhere.
15. The long, stretched-out hours of light in the early evening in the summer — when the vividness of color makes Missoula look like a painting.
16. Ospreys — both birds and baseball. Watching a game on a summer evening, with a view of the sunset reflecting in the Clark Fork river, and the possibility of seeing the Osprey birds nesting by the outfield.
17. The Festival of the Book. Gathering in our vintage Wilma Theater, with a glass of wine from the bar and a chocolate truffle from next-door, to hear brilliant readings and intimate conversations about writing and the life and the landscape here … ahhh.
18. Jumping into a cold Rattlesnake River swimming hole. And then screaming and jumping out!
19. Sustainable living is real here. Home Resource and Homeward and MUD and FreeCycles and Heritage Timber and the Co-op, and the many land trusts, earth-friendly farms, so many conservation groups and non-profits ...
20. The niceness factor. People stop and wait for pedestrians to cross the street, and they say hello to strangers with a smile. The thing I like the most about Missoula is this feeling I have here that everyone somehow decided that being friendly and spreading a little warmheartedness around would make the world a better place -- and so, for the most-part, folks interact with that MO. You can feel it at the hardware store, at the local markets, at Brenan's Wave, at the chairlift, at any of the fundraising runs. I'm not saying there isn't some conflict and crime and craziness, but it isn't what people experience day to day like we do the friendly vibe. Maybe it's the weather, or Missoula's roots in Norwegian cooperative culture that bring out a "we're all in this together" ethos?

With the daffodils up, and spring coming, it feels like a time to celebrate and give thanks. Missoula, thanks for being here!

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Posted by karen Slobod on 04/17/2015 at 1:32 AM

Re: “Worth keeping


Posted by Cj Rolphe on 04/16/2015 at 4:49 PM

Re: “Circular logic

great well written article...feel like I could have read this in vanity fair...can't wait to see this woman's art in the upcoming Radius show and congrats to Lisa for showing her let's get her art out of Montana and to the big cities!!!!

Posted by ariom efeek on 04/16/2015 at 3:44 PM

Re: “Missoula

Indy comment

Thank you for posting/printing this. Good one!

Please send it to the news outlets mentioned in the piece for Opinion section consideration, plus Wall Street Journal (they had a hand in some coverage) , Washington Post and Seattle PI & Times. (I suggest sending individually, so filters don't kick it back as spam.)

I especially appreciate your noting #1,2,5,9,10,11. The other commenters make a good point about nonprofits & peace efforts, too.

Regardless of the quality of Krakauer's book, my hope is that the publicity results in reaching people who do not realize the prevalence of sexual violence against women and girls, and the lack of prosecutions and punishment.

My hope, also, is that the barrage of attention on Missoula will help keep pressure on local investigators, prosecutors, UM Athletic Dept., bystanders, university & local government officials ... really, everyone in our community, so that women and girls live freely and without fear. So that criminals are prosecuted. So that boys are raised to grow up to be respectful, constructive, smart, caring and helpful people.

Missoula has a lot going for it! Thank you for reminding folks.

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Posted by k2 on 04/16/2015 at 1:17 PM

Re: “Not all right

The Montana School for the Deaf & Blind is for students who are either deaf or blind, not "deaf kids who can't see". Perhaps the author made this mistake because there is no obvious reason for blind kids and deaf kids to congregate at the same school—unless it's for a cruel prank?

Posted by Merideth Nepstad on 04/16/2015 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Missoula

Having the most nonprofits per capita and a strong history of peacemakers, including Jeannette Rankin should make the list as well.

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Posted by bmdague on 04/16/2015 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Missoula

Having the most nonprofits and a strong history of peacemakers should make the list too!

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Posted by bmdague on 04/16/2015 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Not all right

Three cheers for false equivalence!

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Posted by James Bergman on 04/16/2015 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Missoula

Wow, nice piece. Don't think it'll sustain the media barrage that'll start on Tuesday, however.

Long past due that Missoula gave itself a hard talking to. We've got issues here, and they need to be resolved.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/16/2015 at 9:10 AM

Re: “Etc.

How much faith should you have in the Good 'Ol Boy Network in Ravalli? How much faith should you have in government down there?


Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/16/2015 at 9:06 AM

Re: “Not all right

The GOP wasted a lot of time and taxpayer money this year. They'll pay for their greed, ignorance and incompetence in 2016. Montana simply can't afford out of state bigshots ruining our lives any longer.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/16/2015 at 9:05 AM

Re: “Not all right

The Montana GOP wasted a lot of taxpayer money on useless issues and pushed policies that directly aimed to ruin hardworking lives. It's a shame, and 2016 will be the year they pay for their ignorance, greed and incompetence.

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Posted by Greg Strandberg on 04/16/2015 at 9:05 AM

Re: “Disability Center

Montana Developmental Center is Ordered to Cease Taking New Admissions in its Secure Unit

Posted by Russff on 04/16/2015 at 6:22 AM

Re: “Flash in the Pan

Also, doughnuts and soda don't make you fat. Consuming more calories than you burn increases body fat. Those calories can come from any higher calorie source, many of which are touted as "healthy alternatives" to whatever "bad" food you think you can't eat.

Posted by dihydrogen monoxide on 04/14/2015 at 5:52 PM

Re: “Flash in the Pan

It would be helpful if you cited the "evidence" and named the study "published on March 25." And calling sugar the new tobacco insinuates that sugar is unsafe to consume in any quantity. Moderate sugar intake will not blow out your liver or give you Alzheimer's and to suggest otherwise is fear-mongering.

Posted by dihydrogen monoxide on 04/14/2015 at 5:28 PM

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