Don't forget to add this to the "Drunk on Power" list....From a recent Indy no less....
Power grab: Bitterroot considers case for state ownership of public lands
The accusations of graffitti, littering and disturbing wildlife are completely unfounded. Whitewater kayakers are among the staunchest practitioners of 'leave no trace' ethics. People should have some idea of what they are lambasting before choosing to speak. The kayaking ban is on par with a hiking ban. Allowing a controlled access system similar to the back country permit system is a rational and enforceable means of allowing a reasonable activity. Kayaking has been proven time and again a legitimate, sustainable, low/no impact recreational pursuit.
Wow, you guys really don't understand kayaking at all, do you? You should come down off your ivory tower for a sec and actually MEET a few of us and you might realize that we are just people, the same as you. The vast majority of whitewater kayakers are NOT interested in adrenaline rushes or (seriously??) "splashing grafitti across any beautiful Yellowstone river." We enjoy floating through beautiful, wild places, the same as you. We follow "leave no trace" ethics. We pack out our trash. We inform ourselves of local regulations. We don't camp on riparian areas or use soap in the river. We hang our food when we are in bear country. We go for hikes from camp. We gaze at the landscapes and try not to complain when our views of the shore are occluded by packs of immature hikers...
Sure, we could keep the park closed to kayakers. There are plenty of other places to kayak. There are also plenty of places to hike. There are plenty of places to drive around in cars and honk at some poor bear savaging somebody's unattended cooler. There are plenty of other places to swim, ski, to gawk at geological oddities. So here's a better idea: why not close the park to ALL enthusiasts. It will be a very beautiful, quiet, serene place for the bison and grizzly to share, and there won't be any humans there at all to ruin it. Or, perhaps, we could allow ALL reasonable enthusiasts access, and prosecute the small minority who cause trouble instead of stereotyping and scapegoating groups of people we know nothing about.
These comments about whitewater paddling are quite shocking to me. I encounter hikers and horseback riders on riverside trails often. Most of them are good people. To call all paddlers destructive is simply wrong. To bar a wilderness compliant human powered activity is short sighted and unfair.
It’s about time!
If she not already done this, I would suggest that she gets with the local police departments. Educate herself on police policy, rules of evidence and other forms of investigations so she can answer questions from students when it comes to these sort of crimes.
When I go out in the back country I bring back everything I take into the wild. I love my state and its natural beauty. I believe everyone has the right to enjoy the parks that are emplace just the way they are.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve packed out someone else’s trash or dived down to the bottom of the river and picked up a glass bottle that had been sunken by a rafter, kayaker or someone floating.
I’m not saying everyone is like this but there are the few that will paint up the canyons with graffiti, dump trash on the banks and sink those bottles in the river.
I say keep them out!
There's something special about camping on Yellowstone National Park's back country rivers and knowing that you won't see a flotilla of rafts and kayaks coming through. Not to mention the positive impact of not disturbing the wildlife that finds sanctuary along the banks of the rivers. Keep Yellowstone's rivers closed to river runners. There are plenty of places for these crafts to play.
Hi David... I never saw City Confidential during its initial run, but I tape every episode on Bio now. They happened to show the Bigfork one this week. As I usually do, I looked up the case after the show and found your now 11+ year old post. Very interesting, just wanted to thank you. I think that show is amazingly well done, and I always get so much out of "act one" and the way the community and its characters are delved into (as much as one can in 15 minutes). Compared to the 24/7 true crime programming we have now, which I admittedly enjoy, full of its bloody reenactments... CC is a show that is true to place, people, and local opinion. It's pretty cool that you were a part of it. Wishing you all the best. -Shannon
Genius light look again. Clearly the couple to the left of the "hetero couple" are a man and woman. That blows your theory to hell. Think you need a new prescription for eyewear. Looking at the couple on the right, you're wrong again!
these folks are stupid ignorant egotists , they should at the very least ban them for life if caught in any park breaking laws set up years ago to protect, not commercialize these diamonds of our country. They are probably the same folks illegally making bike trails, etc.. Seems we have come to a crossroads with our population where rules need to be stiffened up 200% to allow some resemblance of sanity for the rest of us that do not need or want hi tech garbage, and inflated egos to float past our view we hold precious in our life
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