You "rainbow people" can defend yourselves all you want, but your event brings mostly trouble to the communities and surrounding area that you inhabit for this "festival". All I heard from dozens of different groups of people about this event was entirely negative. Stories of worthless pieces of shit coming into grocery stores and urinating all over fruit and veggies, so that the store is forced to throw it all out, and then at the end of day guess who is there to take all of that produce out of the dumpster? Hmm imagine that, the same SOB's who pee'd all over it. Montana communities were forced to dip into emergency funds normally designated for natural disasters in order to cover the financial burden you people caused by abusing services provided by these surrounding communities. The cost of this strain to the beaverhead county taxpayers came to about $26,000. The small town medical facilities and personnel were overstretched and overburdened by the huge influx of drug overdoses, injuries caused by fights between rainbow people, and general misuse of medical emergency services. Unpaid medical bills at Barrett hospital in Dillon came to about 175,000, altogether. This story is just adding fuel to the fire.This doesn't sound the the collective result of a entirely responsible and moral group of people.
My point is, whoever is in charge of organizing these gatherings needs to do serious work to ensure that your event is no longer seen in a such a negative light. So many people on here have claimed that the majority of the "rainbows" are good, responsible people who do all they can to ensure that these events are generally positive and don't put such a heavy burden on the communities that play host to these things. Unfortunately, it seems clear that whatever you're doing isn't enough to cover up for the minority assholes who are ruining it for everyone. Get your shit together, because your reputation is getting worse every year.
Here is what I'm going to do personally to help this situation and I would like to invite the rest of you to do so as well, I'm donating to the Humane Society in Dillon. Donating time as a volunteer I would imagine would be helpful, peaceful, and loving too.
hi. i am the TIT who said that some people actually loose their pets at a gathering. let me tell you about my TITTINESS. I am a nurse practitioner with three masters level degrees. I did my doctoral work at Yale, and i have been providing health care at gatherings for over 25 years. i do this because i truly believe in the utopian ideals that rainbow espouses and because i do not wish to over burden the local health care system where we are gathering. i also volunteered my medical skills to communities affected by hurricanes Katrina and post Sandy. Among other places, I have worked in prisons, which means i had to pass security checks showing i do not do drugs or have a criminal record.
people loose pets all the time. just check out the classifieds or the signs in your local laundromat or grocery store. Responsible people loose pets. i am not an apologists for abuse of any kind--animal or human--but to assume that every abandoned dog had a careless owner is to make a assumption that i am personally unable to make.
to assume that we are all scum because there are a few rude, disrespectful, and unaware people who attend a gathering is a huge leap of logic. what we must always strive to do is to find the commonality in our humanness.
i am sure that in your community, church or workplace there are people who do not represent the majority. should we put down the entire community because of a few idiots? if i were to decide, based on some of the truly outrageous comments by some of the people on this page, that all people in montana were spiteful and smallminded, i would indeed have missed the beauty and kindness of all of the wonderful locals that i met while spending money in your local establishments. i would not have missed that experience for the world.
Why is it that less than 1% was able to abandon animals and out of the rest of the 10,000 people, no one did anything? And Kyrie Smith, you are exactly the type of Rainbow that should be there. That's what I was getting at. I'm not about hate, I'm about ideas. And if the guy in front of me litters, I'll grab it and throw it in the trash. Just like if I see an abandoned animal, I do something about it. That's called, "spreading love."
What saddens me is that I am a Rainbow and a Montana resident. A few people who could have made some different choices do not represent all of us. It saddens me about the pets left, but it does not make all 10,000 of us who attended the beautiful and peaceful time, "bad". I am so sad to read the hate comments left on here. I personally do not use drugs of any kind and I am a hard worker and participate in the community like so very many other "Rainbows", I am just a person praying for peace. We are not all the stereo type some have labeled us with. The news media tends to show the news that may paint a negative picture of us, I hope one day they will show all the positive things. I brought a person with me to the gathering this year who used to have the same stereo type in their mind of us, his view changed in a big way after the gathering, I would like to add that he is a proud "United States Marine" too, and now a Rainbow as well. It's about beauty and love. It is very sad about these pets left and I hope we Rainbows can help prevent this from happening ever one day, it is only a few, not the majority of us. Please try to think about the hate that can be spread from stereo types, it can be another form of racism....because a small few does not make all of us. I pray for everyone equally and I hope for peace among us. God Bless Teresa Rose
Renee, you "understand that setting precedents like unnecessary helicopter flights is detrimental to Wilderness and degrades the law." Great, I'm glad we agree on that.
Yet, instead of praising the organization's that are trying to fight against these "unnecessary helicopter flights" that are "detrimental to Wilderness and degrades the law." ....
You actually blame these very organization's for the problem by saying "If the Forest Service could spend less money and time tied up in Wilderness litigation, maybe they could afford to better maintain and improve trails like Fred Burr in the first place."
Then you go on to at least identify the root cause of the problem, which is that the US Congress doesn't give the Forest Service enough money to take care of designated Wilderness. Of course, the same US Congress has no problem giving the Forest Service all kinds of money for hundreds of millions in logging subsidies, grazing subsides, oil and gas drilling subsides, mining subsides, etc.
So your solution is that these same groups (that you blast for filing a lawsuit to protect Wilderness values and the law) file a lawsuit against the US Congress, which technically I'm pretty sure isn't even possible. Sorry Renee, but that solution makes no sense.
I'm glad you have raised the issue of a lack of funding for Forest Service trail maintenance and Wilderness management. You could add a lack of funding from Congress to issues like bona-fide watershed restoration and road removal to that list as well.
However, blaming the lack of funding issue from Congress on small non-profit groups attempting to hold the federal government accountable and preserve the law and Wilderness values is a ridiculous stretch in my book. Thanks.
In the end, it really doesn't matter what the statistics are for abandoned animals in Beaverhead Co. We should try to do better. Perhaps we Rainbows need to open up discussions amongst ourselves about how to better educate each other about care of our buddies at a Gathering.
Beaverhead County has a population of less than 10,000 people. I have to wonder if the Beaverhead Co Human Society has to deal with more than 12 abandoned dogs, cats, horses, etc every year. And if they do have to deal with more than a dozen, why doesn't the Beaverhead Co Human Society send out press releases about those abandoned animals? Yes, leaving pets behind totally sucks....but to think it's only done by people attending the Rainbow Gathering is crazy.
There's no excuse for people leaving their dogs behind. It's just awful. That said, there's also no excuse for Montana citizens to rant about the Rainbows with the awful language and insults that I read above.
I was at the Montana Gathering for 10 days with my two dogs. We carried doggie poo bags and picked up after our beloved critters. We saw just about every dog there being cared for with love and thoughtful kindness, well-fed and attended to as they should be. That doesn't justify anyone leaving a dog behind -- but there are obviously sides to this story. One is that there needs to be better doggie-watch at the Gatherings; and the other is not to blame all the 10,000 good people who come and do everything right for the few who mess up and are messed up. There are crimes of stupidity of ignorance and neglect committed in every American city everyday. Does that mean we should close down those towns? D'uh. No. Does that mean that as citizens we need to work to educate and inform and help those who don't have the common sense or ability to care for themselves or their pets? Yes, we do have that responsibility.
Also, yes, I and my family have jobs, pay taxes and spent plenty of our work-earned money in Montana on this trip to the Gathering. There's no question that Gathering dollars helped many small businesses in the Gathering area. We stayed three nights in Montana motels (traveling to and from the Gathering - just loved that hots springs resort!), ate at numerous restaurants, bought hundreds of dollars in supplies for the Gathering, bought souvenirs, tools, clothes, gasoline and frankly we were treated with excellence and kindness by all the Montanans we met.
So, just as readers here shouldn't judge all the Rainbows by the few jerks who don't treat their animals with decency, I won't judge Montanans as a group by the few jerks who posted foul-mouthed comments on this column.
i personally want to say how badly i feel for the dogs that were abandoned and to apologize for any undue burdens that this has put upon the fine people of your community. the rainbow gathering is a totally free event which is open to all and there fore can potentially bring an element that those who responsibly try to keep this event safe, struggle with as well. let me assure you the not everyone who goes does so "just to get high" most of us are responsible community members who have jobs, raise children and pay mortgages. personally, i work with the medical unit and we often treat the pets of the people who come. this year we even treated a hairless rat who had bronchitis. although some cruel people abandon their dogs, i think that some of them are just plan lost. i can not tell you how many upset folks i have dealt with who just want to find their missing buddy. again, i would like to thank you all for your kind hospitality over the last month.
When I go to a national park ...I've always had to pay to get in and then I have to follow all the parks rules. My dog can't run free in any national park that I've ever been to, and in the majority of places isn't even allowed on a lease. National parks have lots of very strict rules... perhaps the rainbow group should start gathering at a national park, lol...I lol because I know that would never happen...that would cost money...there would be lots of rules.
The vast majority of creeps that really love and make excuses up for these skum bags and their way of disease infected lives are pry collecting some form of government assistance or have. That's the problem.
Skum...that's what these creeps are. Dirty skum that can't/don't take care of themselves, their kids or their animals. These creeps are only good @ spreading disease via their filthy selves, the kids that they don't keep clean and their disease infested animals that never get shots, etc... How is it that these skum bags are allowed to participate in these events and no one in authority requests to see RABIES PAPERS? There has to be something, some law that would/should require skum groups to show identifications for themselves/kid/pets.
Ahhhh, the massive plague of ignorance is strong in this thread.
I went a few days with my two young children. It was so lovely, fun, and peaceful. The vast majority of Rainbows have jobs. How do you think they get across the country to the gathering? I saw license plates from CA to WA and from OR to TN and WV. I know people were planning to come from NY and FL as well. My husband is in the military, and I took our two kids. We're definitely paying Montana and federal tax dollars and definitely hard working and not broke (between my husband's love of work and our rental property). Unless you've managed to meet all 10,000+ Rainbow brothers and sisters, you cannot reasonably really say much of any use on the subject.
Not everyone there uses drugs. Not everyone there has a low IQ or lacks ingenuity, and creativity certainly abounds. I had the military try to talk me into a job in nuclear physics. My husband works on Minuteman nukes. We certainly aren't into drugs. I don't even like alcohol! lol. I'm what you would call teetotal.
For everyone whining about partying with taxpayer money.... what do you call anyone visiting a national park? Should we close them all to save your dime? Also, a LOT of people there were actually Montanans themselves. Were you there and looking at all of the license plates, you would already know this.
As for losing a dog in a crowd of 10,000.... how is that not easy? I was there, and it would take all of one second to lose a dog or a kid for good! If you think a dozen dogs being left behind out of the thousands of dogs and a good many kittens, you need to work on your math skills. Were you to realize how big and heavily wooded that area is, you'd realize that an animal could easily slip away, and the searching force of all 10 thousand could still be able to miss it.
Blame Law Enforcement for the massive tax money spent. Who do you think 3/4ths of that money goes to? Only 1/4th goes to healthcare costs which are directly caused by some Rainbows. I just came from there with my two small children and we watched LEO's sitting around watching plays and just riding their horses across the green meadow while being paid up to time and a half to watch naked women walking around.... Nice waste of tax dollars wouldn't you say?
If you don't believe me, watch every single news article mention how cooperative and smooth running this place is. Very few problems considering the sheer amount of people there. Montana cities the same size likely do much worse.
By my calculations not even half of one percent are trouble makers according to these numbers... According to a KTVQ article there are 9700 people and only 30 arrests. Did anyone consider that some of these dogs might have belonged to people who got arrested?
"With a group this large, 90% of the people are good people. It's the 10% in any community that causes problems," Sheriff Hansen noted.
"Like the Mayor alluded to, it's a cultural thing and it would maybe open some eyes."
How about the people attending show proof of being a tax payer before being allowed entrance? It would show two things, that you have genuine right to that area and help pay for the clean up, and that you are somewhat responsible. And no not every tax payer is responsible. Just a thought.
Repeal the first admendment that will stop um !
The people you are judging are 15 out of over 8000 that's well below one percent. So don't make a decision about the majority based on actions of the minorities. Fucking dipshits.
You actually think that making it no dogs allowed is going to fix anything... NO NO NO it won't. They have pets and want to come they will leave them behind somewhere else to starve and die before they get there. You will find dead dogs tied in back alleys and yards because they were left to fend for themselves for the week or 3 because these so called "humans" decided partying was more friggin important !
Its just freaking hippies, they get these dogs just to keep them warm and somewhat safe at night, yet they don't even know how to take care of themselves let alone a dog... I see them all the time, these free spirits that hitch hike all over , and their dogs are skinny and sick looking , its disgusting and in some states they get welfare for their dog, so the extra few dollars they collect they can buy more pot. They think the dogs can live on food scraps and they also think they get more hand outs for themselves because people see they have a dog and feel sorry for the animal...if you don't have a place to live and can't afford to look after yourself you shouldn't have a dog. Freaking lazy pot headed hippies.
It is funny how so many judge "Rainbows" as just one person. I am a homehealth care worker and was glad to have spent 13days at the gathering. The larger majority of people who go to the gathering are wonderful hardworking people, who go for the spiritual aspect of the gathering. No one should judge the gathering as a whole as we are all individuals. Yes, it is very unfortunate that a few choose to make bad decisions about their pets, but then again I see neglected pets in town everyday....not to mention all the feral cats! so judge not lest ye be judged! And don't put something down that you know nothing about.
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